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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 6:47 am    Post subject: standing tall...? Reply with quote

okay, this is my second season, and I'm doing alright, but I've got a questions about this. I'm doing okay on my wake to wake jumps, but still need to look at the horizon and not my landing spot so much. But it's a real effort to get across the wake. I cut out, wait until the boat starts to pull me back and then I cut progressively towards the wake. Being a long time skater, I have a tendency to 'pump' up the wake as if I was riding a half pipe. I compress a little before I hit the wake and then launch.

By standing tall, should I not 'pump', but rather let the rope pop me up be releasing my edge?

I interperet standing tall as standing vertical instead of leaning back to add line tension.
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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your last statement is close, you want to stand tall as part of your release, which its that very quick moment of when you are leaving the wake. Definitely don't pump the wake like a half pipe, that will cause your knees to absorb the jump and you will lose your edging power and your pop. You do that in skateboarding to absorb the transition but in wakeboarding you want to hold all your power through the entire transition. And you can edge 400% harder than you think you should, try to increase the power of your edge with every wake jump, dig those heels in and get the line tight, hold it all the way up the wake and stand tall as you release. Thats what will help you progress.
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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sound advice.
the pop comes from your rope tension, and the wake kicking you up into the air

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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i learned at twc you want to be at your "compressed stage before you start to edge in or else you will lose some of the rope tension
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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try cutting out only 6 to 8 feet. Let the boat pull you in, then start edging hard. Edge super hard that last 1 to 2 feet - that is were you get most of your pop. If you edge all the way through the wake, you will have no problem taking your jump wake to wake, with good height, on a 70 ft line.

As you get used to holding a good edge, start increasing the distance of your cut..Before you know it you can hold a progressive edge from 25 feet out.

It is much easier to develop a good progressive edge from only a 6 to 8 foot cut... The further out you cut the more likely you will come off edge and flatten out before you hit the wake.

Don't pump the wake. It will cause you to come off edge.

Also, don't neglect your TS edge. Go after those TS jumps!!!

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PostPosted: Jun 19, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: standing tall...? Reply with quote

graphik wrote:
I interperet standing tall as standing vertical instead of leaning back to add line tension.


Arrow NO - standing tall does not mean coming off your backward lean. This is definitely what's causing you to lose line tension. When you're standing tall, you're still leaning and pulling against the boat. Just push (or roll) your hips forward and bring your shoulders back in line with your hips. You do this every time you pick up a heavy bucket or play tug-of-war to gain maximum leverage against the object you're pulling.

Idea This is probably a much bigger problem than "pumping". As long as you fully come out of the pump by the time you reach the wake's crest, that might not be a big deal.
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PostPosted: Jun 19, 2003 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's great stuff guys. I can do toe and heel cuts fine, and in one issue of WBM it even gave illustrations of how to position yourself when loading the line, but it never said anything really about leaving the wake. Okay, this weekend, I'll cut and stay on edge all the way through the wake. And the closer I get to the wake the taller I'll stand so that my hips and shoulders are in line. Gotcha.

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PostPosted: Jun 19, 2003 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not as you get closer but at the bottom of the wake so at the top right at the pop point your standing tall
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PostPosted: Jun 19, 2003 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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not as you get closer but at the bottom of the wake so at the top right at the pop point your standing tall


For you people that are picky with terms he means the trough of the wake Very Happy

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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2003 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've been wakeboarding for some time, but I still don't think I pop right. I can do a few tricks and even a backroll (cause I flip like mad). However I don't get a lot of air. I board on a boat that has a tower and I have a nice progressive edge. It's just that the standing up part still throws me for a loop. I think I have tried it before but all that suceeded in doing was getting me off balance as I came off the wake. My legs shot out underneath me and I ended up flying through the air horizontal. It was funny after words, but not so fun during. What am I doing wrong? (Has nothing to do with strength issues, not exactly weak)
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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2003 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have no problem standing tall....i just still needto work on progresive edge cuz i alwayx land just barely outside of wake but im not cutting too hard.....i always let go ofit at wake....BAH Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to have a lot of trouble just doing straight airs on the TS wake. I 'm very inconsistent. One time I'll pop really well, the next I'm really of balance. Balance is probably my biggest problem on TS jumps. What's wierd is I'm more cofortable doing 180's than straight airs. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2003 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Jun 22, 2003 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just stand tall on your w2w. pumping blows. I had that problem for a while........
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