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graphik Addict

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 727 City: miller lake
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Posted: Jun 18, 2003 6:47 am Post subject: standing tall...? |
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okay, this is my second season, and I'm doing alright, but I've got a questions about this. I'm doing okay on my wake to wake jumps, but still need to look at the horizon and not my landing spot so much. But it's a real effort to get across the wake. I cut out, wait until the boat starts to pull me back and then I cut progressively towards the wake. Being a long time skater, I have a tendency to 'pump' up the wake as if I was riding a half pipe. I compress a little before I hit the wake and then launch.
By standing tall, should I not 'pump', but rather let the rope pop me up be releasing my edge?
I interperet standing tall as standing vertical instead of leaning back to add line tension. |
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Jim M Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933
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Posted: Jun 18, 2003 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Your last statement is close, you want to stand tall as part of your release, which its that very quick moment of when you are leaving the wake. Definitely don't pump the wake like a half pipe, that will cause your knees to absorb the jump and you will lose your edging power and your pop. You do that in skateboarding to absorb the transition but in wakeboarding you want to hold all your power through the entire transition. And you can edge 400% harder than you think you should, try to increase the power of your edge with every wake jump, dig those heels in and get the line tight, hold it all the way up the wake and stand tall as you release. Thats what will help you progress. |
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Nathan Newman Addict

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor
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Posted: Jun 18, 2003 8:58 am Post subject: |
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sound advice.
the pop comes from your rope tension, and the wake kicking you up into the air _________________ The consciousness of self is the greatest hindrance to the proper execution of all physical action.
-Bruce Lee
An eye for an eye will make the world blind.
-Gandhi
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees.
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BoardinDan Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 1025 City: clermont FL
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Posted: Jun 18, 2003 10:01 am Post subject: |
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from what i learned at twc you want to be at your "compressed stage before you start to edge in or else you will lose some of the rope tension _________________ Staff member of
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Rob74 Criminal

Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 90
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Posted: Jun 18, 2003 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Try cutting out only 6 to 8 feet. Let the boat pull you in, then start edging hard. Edge super hard that last 1 to 2 feet - that is were you get most of your pop. If you edge all the way through the wake, you will have no problem taking your jump wake to wake, with good height, on a 70 ft line.
As you get used to holding a good edge, start increasing the distance of your cut..Before you know it you can hold a progressive edge from 25 feet out.
It is much easier to develop a good progressive edge from only a 6 to 8 foot cut... The further out you cut the more likely you will come off edge and flatten out before you hit the wake.
Don't pump the wake. It will cause you to come off edge.
Also, don't neglect your TS edge. Go after those TS jumps!!!
Peace _________________ "Our common welfare as wakeboarders shall come first, placing principles ahead of personalities......" |
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hundel Criminal


Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 93
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Posted: Jun 19, 2003 6:01 am Post subject: Re: standing tall...? |
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| graphik wrote: | | I interperet standing tall as standing vertical instead of leaning back to add line tension. |
NO - standing tall does not mean coming off your backward lean. This is definitely what's causing you to lose line tension. When you're standing tall, you're still leaning and pulling against the boat. Just push (or roll) your hips forward and bring your shoulders back in line with your hips. You do this every time you pick up a heavy bucket or play tug-of-war to gain maximum leverage against the object you're pulling.
This is probably a much bigger problem than "pumping". As long as you fully come out of the pump by the time you reach the wake's crest, that might not be a big deal. |
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graphik Addict

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 727 City: miller lake
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Posted: Jun 19, 2003 11:09 am Post subject: |
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that's great stuff guys. I can do toe and heel cuts fine, and in one issue of WBM it even gave illustrations of how to position yourself when loading the line, but it never said anything really about leaving the wake. Okay, this weekend, I'll cut and stay on edge all the way through the wake. And the closer I get to the wake the taller I'll stand so that my hips and shoulders are in line. Gotcha.
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BoardinDan Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 1025 City: clermont FL
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Posted: Jun 19, 2003 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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not as you get closer but at the bottom of the wake so at the top right at the pop point your standing tall _________________ Staff member of
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Mister C Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 3296 City: Burbank, SO-CAL
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Posted: Jun 19, 2003 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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not as you get closer but at the bottom of the wake so at the top right at the pop point your standing tall
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For you people that are picky with terms he means the trough of the wake  _________________ "I knew those girls were pros, but don't tell Turtle, it'll break his heart." - Drama, Entourage |
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simland Soul Rider

Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 397 City: Minneapolis
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Posted: Jun 20, 2003 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I've been wakeboarding for some time, but I still don't think I pop right. I can do a few tricks and even a backroll (cause I flip like mad). However I don't get a lot of air. I board on a boat that has a tower and I have a nice progressive edge. It's just that the standing up part still throws me for a loop. I think I have tried it before but all that suceeded in doing was getting me off balance as I came off the wake. My legs shot out underneath me and I ended up flying through the air horizontal. It was funny after words, but not so fun during. What am I doing wrong? (Has nothing to do with strength issues, not exactly weak) |
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anti-shoobies Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1725 City: Ghettoburg
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deathflamingo Outlaw


Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 177 City: Yankton
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Posted: Jun 20, 2003 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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i have no problem standing tall....i just still needto work on progresive edge cuz i alwayx land just barely outside of wake but im not cutting too hard.....i always let go ofit at wake....BAH  |
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jedwards Newbie

Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 7 City: Auburn,CA
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Posted: Jun 20, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to have a lot of trouble just doing straight airs on the TS wake. I 'm very inconsistent. One time I'll pop really well, the next I'm really of balance. Balance is probably my biggest problem on TS jumps. What's wierd is I'm more cofortable doing 180's than straight airs. Any suggestions? _________________ The fear of the Lord, is the begining of wisdom. |
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BoardinDan Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 1025 City: clermont FL
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Posted: Jun 21, 2003 7:41 am Post subject: |
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tryem dead sailor _________________ Staff member of
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Welcome to Florida where the palm trees grow sideways
i'm not afraid of heights.. i could look up at them all day
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Inggy Addict


Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 878 City: Vancouver, Washington
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Posted: Jun 22, 2003 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Just stand tall on your w2w. pumping blows. I had that problem for a while........ _________________ I'm telling you its jobs,
First we gotta get the jobs,
Then we get the khakis,
THEN we get the chicks!
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