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PostPosted: Jun 13, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Thank You BP! Reply with quote

Thanks to British Petroleum and the oil spill, my season will be cut short this year because our rivers and bays are now full of oil slicks, tar balls, and dead marine life!
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PostPosted: Jun 13, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it is not much of a consulation but I have made every effort to avoid BP and I will continue to avoid BP for a very long time. I hope others do as well.
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PostPosted: Jun 13, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the fault of bp or is it just one of those things that happen. It may have happened to bp but it could just as easily be another company. Though I haven't been paying much attention to the whole thing. Were the parts failing inspections but still being used? Or is this just another matter of needing someone to blame?
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interessting detail that alot of big Companys like Goldman Sachs shorted their major positions in the BP stock just before the Oil Spill.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were several documented warnings that BP ignored. It makes me sick to think about how much of an impact this is going to have on not only the environment but on the economies that rely on the gulf for income. I just hope someone has the Nuts to go after those responsible.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The managment on the Rig also knew that the uppercommand of BP was giving false orders, but they had to carry them out, while the manager on the rig knew everything would go to hell...
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs917 wrote:
I know it is not much of a consulation but I have made every effort to avoid BP and I will continue to avoid BP for a very long time. I hope others do as well.


I understand this is what a lot of people want to do, but doing this only reduces their revenues/profits which are needed to continue to fund the cleanup. Driving them into bankruptcy means that you and I and the rest of the American taxpayers get stuck with the cleanup bill.

Just something to think about.

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Can someone tell that guy that in a chop water breaks at varying locations on hull da and that they didn't invent the boat!wow the arrogance of that!!!!! Shocked
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I am pretty sure most of the bill is going to find its way to the taxpayers. I dont have facts or data to back that assumption but there is a lot of corruption in these businesses. I like when they asked Obama if there was anything illegal that went on and he just blew off the question. I bet there were some shady things going on that led to this disater, and I hope the company/those responsible pay for it.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs917 wrote:
well I am pretty sure most of the bill is going to find its way to the taxpayers. I dont have facts or data to back that assumption but there is a lot of corruption in these businesses. I like when they asked Obama if there was anything illegal that went on and he just blew off the question. I bet there were some shady things going on that led to this disater, and I hope the company/those responsible pay for it.


Yep - don't get me wrong. The morons that are responsible need to be held accountable, and I'd support some prison time and hefty personal fines for them as well.

As far as corruption and backroom deals, nothing at this point would surprise me. I have not doubt that more details will come to light as time goes on.

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Can someone tell that guy that in a chop water breaks at varying locations on hull da and that they didn't invent the boat!wow the arrogance of that!!!!! Shocked
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as is this "just something that went wrong" or was it actually someone's fault - it was actually someone's fault. First off they drilled the oil in a spot they knew they wouldn't be able to get to easily. Second off whoever the org is that is supposed to provide the check ups on the oil company to make sure they don't drill in an unreachable area didn't do their job either and let them drill there.

Then keep in mind the a$$ clowns still don't have it fixed. Yeah it's definitely someones fault. And I could give a sh*t less who gets blamed right now, they need to quit pointing fingers and get the f*cking thing cleaned up before it demolishes more of the environment.

I hope this leads a lot more people down the path of renewable energy instead of yeah lets drill anywhere we can for more oil Rolling Eyes

After they have it cleaned up then I'm all for punishing those that did wrong. You can send them one by one into a windowless room with me for a day Smile

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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of right now, me and 2000+ other people in my area have been hired by BP to ride around on your own boat and keep on a lookout for oil and dead animals. They are paying $1200 for the boat and $200 to the captain and the deckhand daily. I spotted an oil slick in mobile bay yesterday and I called it in to them and instead of getting clean up boats out there to skim it up, all they did was absolutely nothing about it but said ok thanks. They are basically hiring all these people and giving out all of this money just to make people happy and so they dont have to hear everyone b****. They dont care about the gulf coast and the effect that this catastrophe will bring for many years to come.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Practice what you preach BP!



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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything is on the table of the taxpayers, it always is, has been and will be. Wake up to the illusion of freedom and democracy... As long as banks create money out of thin air, and you will have to pay them back, with interest wich can never be repaid... you will always be Bubb Rubb.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bama_Wake wrote:
As of right now, me and 2000+ other people in my area have been hired by BP to ride around on your own boat and keep on a lookout for oil and dead animals. They are paying $1200 for the boat and $200 to the captain and the deckhand daily. I spotted an oil slick in mobile bay yesterday and I called it in to them and instead of getting clean up boats out there to skim it up, all they did was absolutely nothing about it but said ok thanks. They are basically hiring all these people and giving out all of this money just to make people happy and so they dont have to hear everyone b****. They dont care about the gulf coast and the effect that this catastrophe will bring for many years to come.


I think they have no clue what to do about this at all. That is some good cash though, 1600 bucks a day to ride around and do nothing lol.... Get some hazmat suits and go for a couple slick rides hahahaha

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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats all im doing is riding around and looking until 2 o clock everyday. Easiest and most money ive ever made. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Jun 15, 2010 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bama_Wake wrote:
As of right now, me and 2000+ other people in my area have been hired by BP to ride around on your own boat and keep on a lookout for oil and dead animals. They are paying $1200 for the boat and $200 to the captain and the deckhand daily. I spotted an oil slick in mobile bay yesterday and I called it in to them and instead of getting clean up boats out there to skim it up, all they did was absolutely nothing about it but said ok thanks. They are basically hiring all these people and giving out all of this money just to make people happy and so they dont have to hear everyone b****. They dont care about the gulf coast and the effect that this catastrophe will bring for many years to come.


I think they have no clue what to do about this at all. That is some good cash though, 1600 bucks a day to ride around and do nothing lol.... Get some hazmat suits and go for a couple slick rides hahahaha


Then you can even actually wakeboard behind you boat. Spare the money and get the hell out of there.

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PostPosted: Jun 15, 2010 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish they would let me ride while I was working. Getting payed to ride would be awesome! But if they catch you doing something besides looking for oil, you will be deactivated.
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PostPosted: Jun 15, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you all seen the youtube video about BP spilling a cup of coffee on a table...funny stuff.

Sorry to hear about peoples riding seasons being ruined.

And to whoever suggested we find more renewable energy resources, if you own an electric car, i'm gonna punch you in the face. Electric cars are WORSE for the environment then gas or diesel..Doesn't look like they are but just think a couple minutes about where that electricity comes from. then think about what will happen to those useless depleted batteries. just stick with a small 4 banger car and a big a$$ truck to pull stuff when you need it.
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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the posts above are so outlandishly ridiculous. Emotions in the way of logic. My favorite is the brilliant Einstein who posted a picture of a BP gas station saying something like "practice what you preach!" PURE IGNORANCE!

You realize that gas station is privately owned by a business owner just trying to make ends meet for his family while at the same time providing work for 15-20 employees. He has probably a 7 year contract through BP for oil but has absolutely NOTHING to do with the oil spill. Boycotting BP stations does absolutely NOTHING to BP. BP will just sell there oil to other countries or raise there prices on there oil which will in turn make $5.00 a gallon across the US.

The way you effect BP directly is by attacking there stock. These little BP stations are owned and operated by everyday people who are binded by contracts with BP. Please don't punish these business owners because of your ignorance and misundrstanding of the situation.
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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And to whoever suggested we find more renewable energy resources, if you own an electric car, i'm gonna punch you in the face.


I don't and never mentioned anything regarding "cradle to grave" cost of an electric car. I agree with you that the electric cars of today aren't great when moved to large scale (if everyone drove them). What I mentioned was "renewable energy". There ARE ways to use renewable energy without a largely negative impact. Windmills? Free electricity. Solar panels? I'm not familiar with whats all "under the hood" of a solar panel but as long as they aren't breaking or wearing out often - free electricity. Chuck a huge turbine in a fast moving river - free electricity. That's all I'm advocating.

and geissap, the image above was probably posted as a joke. Annnd you probably shouldn't be running around calling people ignorant just because you want to point out technicalities.

In fact if you want to get all anal about it, what is selling their stock like mad to drop the price of it going to do anyway? Are you telling me you know exactly what percentage of BP is public? You realize they could have gone public with 20% of their stock a while back just to get some capital for a particular purchase and now they don't give a crap what happens to it right?

The REAL way to get back at them, in my humble opinion, is after the situation is all fixed, just make sure you find the real people at fault (all of them) and give them a fair punishment for what they did. Hopefully offshore drilling gets more scrutiny too.

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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@wakeboarder - good points your right I don't know, but it's definitely a better idea then boycotting BP stations! I don't regret my usage of ignorance either. That's me showing my emotion which is similiar to the emotional response of attacking BP gas stations.

I like your humble opinion at the end. I agree with it. It'll happen too I think
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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geissap wrote:
Some of the posts above are so outlandishly ridiculous. Emotions in the way of logic. My favorite is the brilliant Einstein who posted a picture of a BP gas station saying something like "practice what you preach!" PURE IGNORANCE!

You realize that gas station is privately owned by a business owner just trying to make ends meet for his family while at the same time providing work for 15-20 employees. He has probably a 7 year contract through BP for oil but has absolutely NOTHING to do with the oil spill. Boycotting BP stations does absolutely NOTHING to BP. BP will just sell there oil to other countries or raise there prices on there oil which will in turn make $5.00 a gallon across the US.

The way you effect BP directly is by attacking there stock. These little BP stations are owned and operated by everyday people who are binded by contracts with BP. Please don't punish these business owners because of your ignorance and misundrstanding of the situation.


Soooo... you own a BP station huh?

Take it easy on the personal attacks there Mr. Incredible... Your CAPS LOCK doesn’t make you smarter... bottom line is that those private owners represent BP when they signed the contract and put the logo up... like it or not… That’s the risk of doing business.

"Attack the Stock"... you’re kidding right??? How do you propose we as the American public "Attack" the stock?... since obviously you don’t think impacting revenue (which is what drives stock price) will do anything because it goes through the station owner before going to BP... Tell us... How do YOU "attack" the stock?

If a U.S. company had done this on foreign shores there would be American flags burning in the streets all around the world... and you shrug your shoulders and call us ignorant for being pissed off... get off your horse...

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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Layn - And using 3 question marks at the end of your questions makes you smarter? Great retort!

Your risk analysis assessment for BP owners is terrible btw. They signed a contract with a company so they should suffer for a mechanical failure that happened thousands of miles from them? Nope sorry I totally don't understand this point.

I'd say the stock got "attacked" pretty well. It tanked overnight! By boycotting the stock instead of the gas stations you show the market at work. If people see BP is a billion dollars into this they stop investing in BP. BP has lost 58 billion dollars in stock market value because of this spill. That effects BP not boycotting a privately owned gas station.

Where did I say you can't be pissed off and where did you see me shrug my shoulders? Confused

I have no clue what the foreign water thing has to do with anything so I'll just say, Cool!
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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@Layn - And using 3 question marks at the end of your questions makes you smarter? Great retort!


Exaggerated punctuation is a way of showing inflection through text... you know a better way?... Capital letters just says that you need to yell so that people dont question you.

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Your risk analysis assessment for BP owners is terrible btw. They signed a contract with a company so they should suffer for a mechanical failure that happened thousands of miles from them? Nope sorry I totally don't understand this point.


They assume BP's reputation when they put the sign up... If BP's reputation suffers, so does that private owner... that is the risk... and its black and white. Are you saying that if BP did something great and received a boost in public opinion that the station owner shouldn’t reap the benefits either? If only business worked the way you think it should.... All those GM dealerships wouldnt have gone out of business.

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I'd say the stock got "attacked" pretty well. It tanked overnight! By boycotting the stock instead of the gas stations you show the market at work. If people see BP is a billion dollars into this they stop investing in BP. BP has lost 58 billion dollars in stock market value because of this spill. That effects BP not boycotting a privately owned gas station.


And did you personally have anything to do with that? I doubt it... How many average Joes have ever thought about buying BP stock? Not many... How many average Joes have thought about buying BP gas?... People do what is in their power… How can someone that never owned BP stock (the majority of Americans) boycott something they never bought in the first place? How does that make an impact?

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Where did I say you can't be pissed off and where did you see me shrug my shoulders?


I guess it was your arrogant attitude and telling everyone that their thoughts were "outlandishly ridiculous" that set the impression.

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I have no clue what the foreign water thing has to do with anything so I'll just say, Cool!


It was a comparison between the American Public’s reaction and what the reaction of the rest of the world would be had the circumstances been reversed. It really wasn’t that hard to understand.

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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we can all agree that BP in general is kinda sucky, whilst the environment is getting railed and we should all do what we can to fix the problem at hand (oil currently still leaking into the ocean).

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PostPosted: Jun 16, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant remember where i read it, but they said that all the major U.S. oil companies are pitching in some amount of money. Because even though they are competitors, the new regulations are going to effect them all. all the oil companies want as little washback from this as possible. so if that is true, and all oil companies are pitching in money, they are all going to want it back. so the price of gas will rise all around, not just from BP.
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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2010 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont you guys know that BP stations don't sell just BP gas? They get ti from other sources too. Alot of it comes thru the same pipelines. Rolling Eyes

Do you ever see just one brand of gas raise its prices anyway, NO! Greed gets in the way. If BP has to raise its prices, and eventually it will to recover form this. All the other brands are just going to bump up with them. Then while BP is recovering others will be posting huge proffits.

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