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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Yet another new board question. Reply with quote

I've been riding since the days of the directional boards, but have had a few lengthy layoffs over the years. I had been away from my boat for college and after that it had some issues which kept it on land. So now everything is back in order and I can get out on the water often enough that it's time for some new gear.

My current board is, and feel free to laugh, a 1996 Connelly Dually. Yes, back when CWB was still Connelly. It served me well but frankly, it's just too old. The bindings annoy me the most and I doubt new ones would fit such an old board. What I am looking for is a solid all-around board with good pop and decent control. This is going to be a bit of a community board as I have a few buddies who ride with me.

I'm trying to keep it around $300-350 for a package. I don't need a real top-end board, we're all just weekend warriors out for fun. I've got 2 that I'm really looking at: Liquid Force Trip with Index bindings or LF PS3 with Domain bindings. I have seen other, better boards out there in packages within my price range but the bindings are just too restrictive in size. I need something that is going to fit more than one person. What throws me off is the Domain bindings. I'm not sure if I would like the simple velcro closure, I kinda like the lace-up of the Index. I've been kinda tunnel-visioned on LF since I checked out a Trip in a shop last year while I was on vacation.

All the other brands packages at that price seem to be lesser boards or the TS/HS designs which I'm not sure I want. I'd prefer a standard design even if I have to put in that extra effort TS.

What are the thoughts of you guys who are up on today's tech?

Any other boards I should be looking at?

Our tricks are pretty much spins and grabs, maybe a roll if it can be landed consistently, no insane inverts or kickers/sliders. Thanks for any input!
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either one of those two boards will treat you nicely and are pretty good all-around. I don't have experience with those bindings though so I can't offer advice on those.
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

checkout this.. they have a huge sale going on.. buy them separate and its cheaper. 25 percent off everything in the outlet section you can get a lyman for only 165.. here is the link just open the bindings in one page and wakeboards in another and see what u like..


http://www.evogear.com/outlet-shop/wake.aspx
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bridges wrote:
checkout this.. they have a huge sale going on.. buy them separate and its cheaper. 25 percent off everything in the outlet section you can get a lyman for only 165.. here is the link just open the bindings in one page and wakeboards in another and see what u like..


http://www.evogear.com/outlet-shop/wake.aspx


Yea I've already looked through evogear. The board deals are nice, but the binding selection isn't in the size I need. Also, you didn't really help much concerning my original post. No opinion on the 2 boards/bindings I listed. No "here's a better package take a look at this". I've been lurking for a few weeks before signing up and I can say that a majority of your posts lately have just been spamming the evogear deal. Sounds like you're somehow associated with them and were told to get the word out. If you're not going to be helpful, don't post in any thread I make. I'd rather not have to sift through your useless excrement.

And thanks Gnar. Anywhere I've looked the Trip seems to get good word for the average rider. Ability to progress without much hold-back. The PS3 being about the same, just a different rocker.

Here's another question for you gurus...what are the differences in a 3-stage and a continuous rocker? From what I've gathered a 3-stage will pop more while a continuous has less pop but rides faster. I'm sure anything new will pop more than what I have now. I've got no problems going wake to wake and can land out in the flats if I dig in and go for it. What I really want is something that will give me enough height to tweak out some grabs while spinning but is still going to take it to the flats with good height and be able to land soft.

And I really apologize, but one more. How do today's boards handle with the molded in fins? I'm rocking a 1.5" rear center and a 1" front center, no side fins at all. It doesn't get too loose, so I'm hoping for a little looser ride when I'm tracking straight but on rails when I cut.
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow man i am in no way associated with them at all i dont even think i have ever purchased anything from them. i saw this on another forum and though i wud share it on here to help people out.. as in i have helped 2 people buy boards and bindings the last 2 days yes one bought from evo gear the other i have been talking on the phone that lives in my area purchased from a board store he just wanted help on what to do.. it isnt considered spamming when trying to help people out..

i simply gave u a site not knowing if u have looked at it or not before and was going to let you see what you liked then i was thinking u were going to maybe see a few things on there u liked and i cud look and try to help u with finding prices because if u wud also look at other posts i gave them sites to ebay which had a cheaper deal than evo gear..

i was going to help you by picking out a board and binding set up for cheap just because u buy a board from there doesnt mean u have to buy bindings.. maddog bought a board from there then i found him some cheap soven bindings on ebay. hell man i dont care where u buy from i was ust going to try help to find u the lowest price but saying that stuff isnt going to get u much help.

edit: but since im a nice guy and im not sure why u got all pissed for me posting a website trying to help out but to answer question u may want to look a abrupt continuous rocker so its some of both worlds gives u the height u need and also has soft landings and still rides fast..
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Kinda harsh there Cepha. Like bridges said, he helped me find a great deal on a setup and he sent me to more than just evo-gear. Yea I got my board from evo but I bought my bindings from a store on eBay. He has no idea who I even am, but sit on the computer for a couple hours looking for a setup for a complete stranger, which I thought was pretty generous. Long story short, I got a $780 setup for $400... You don't have to listen to his opinion, but he shouldn't be criticized for giving it. Just tryin' to help ya out.
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, one of your first posts probably shouldn't be ragging on another member, especially if they have a sizeable amount of posts. I'm sorry but someone doesn't rack up 500 and some odd posts just to gain trust so they can spam. As an aside I hate spammers as well, but they almost always have < 20 posts.

Has bridges been directing people towards evogear lately? Yes. Why is it a bad thing? I love it that this community is open enough to be able to share deals. Did you know the forum owner actually runs boardstop? Do you know how cool it is that he allows us to talk about deals at other places? Bridges is just trying to save you some cash that's all. Part of the wakeboard community is helping other people out when getting deals, and letting others know how companies treat them.

As far as your original question, the way you're talking and the background you have I would recommend either a continuous or cont abrupt rocker. I'm guessing you're going to appreciate speed over pop, but then again you were talking about wanting more pop, so perhaps you ought to either go with abrupt cont, or 3-stage. I can still fly pretty dang high with a continuous, in fact I don't know if I even get higher with my 3-stage to be honest. It's all in what you're comfortable with. Do understand that the extra height you'll get from a 3-stage in my opinion is minimal at best, and do understand that it has the potential to make the board slower, sometimes much slower.

Understand that if you come from a continuous background (no idea what the board you currently have is, if it's fast, slow, whatever) you will most likely hate your first 3 stage. I felt like I was riding a flat board through the water, it dragged like an anchor - until i got used to it.

That being said I've ridden the trip and i love it. I haven't ridden the other board you've posted, nor am I familiar with either of the bindings you've listed. I would give the trip a solid stamp of approval though, I liked the board a lot.

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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wowzers.... so umm I buy alot of snowboard gear from evo.... so its only nautural that I get wake stuff from them as well... it seems like they stock up like crazy at the begining of each season cuz they always have an S load of stuff in the outlet... cant deny that thier leftover selection is awesome.

that being said... you have to ride the boards bro.... I have two 3 stage boards and they both ride completly diferent.... either demo, or bite the bullet and get what you "think" most fits your riding....

BTW, I have a 1997ish Jobe directional that used to take me way out into the flats sittin in the basement.... someday im gunna take that thing back out and ride it for old times sake.

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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, right. I have no problem with evogear or boardstop or anywhere else. I came asking a simple question and what I got was useless tripe. I really don't care if you feel I was over the line, post count means stuff. Someone with 10,000 posts could post useless or just plain wrong info, and some first timer with <10 posts who knows what they're talking about might have the best advice. I called him out on not being helpful. What good does sending me to a site do? If I knew what I was looking for I wouldn't have been asking for opinions. Telling me to go "pick what I like" was not useful. I'm a big boy, I can find my own deals. If I had found something better I would have been asking about that. Maybe I just wasn't specific enough in my original post. Anyway...I'm over it, you'll get over it.

To the rest of you who actually have been helpful, thank you. I'll probably just go with a continuous rocker and adapt to it if I need to. If it's not quite right I could probably just return it.
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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well good deal... Get your board and take your pissy attitude elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this is a slightly different thread than Im used to, however I have to also throw my vote bridges way,n vouch for him.

As to the Board question I purchased the LF Watson Classic and the LF Ultra Bindings

Having used rental boards for the past two year, needless to say Ive tried a few different types of bindings and catagorically would say if you are looking for an open toe pair these are some of the most comfortable bindings you will ever own.

As to the board...well I only got to ride it 1 and an half times before I managed to snap it but managed to get a replacement board which I'll be picking up tommorow again the classic. Its a 3 stage rocker, essentially means you can spin on the board without the fins catching.

The board itself is relativly slow and controled in the water compared to the PS3 137 which I have be riding along with the LF substance. PS3 and to a lesser degree the substance (not available in 2010)are both faster boards if not quite as stable as the Classic felt during my short period of time riding it.

Below is the link to all the 2010 LF boards which the explanation behind each of the board features

www.liquidforce.com/wakeboards-mens.html

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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maddog10 wrote:
Well good deal... Get your board and take your pissy attitude elsewhere.


+1 if you're going to get all huffy because someone sent you a site that is having a sale right now you should probably just F off.

Think about it this way. You want help but you're p*issing and moaning about someone who tried to help. Even if they failed in your eyes how likely do you think others will be to want to help you? Don't go on and on about how you're a big boy and you can make decisions and find deals yourself when you're asking questions of other people. If you're such a big boy then get off the forum and stop asking questions and deal with everything yourself.

I'm calling troll.

Troooooll...

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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These guys are all misleading you, liquid force, hyperlite, and ronix are all crap. Go get yourself a body glove or hydroslide board, cause that's the type of board you should be on.

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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CephalopodOverlord, i got a 1 year old cousin that doesnt gripe and bitch as much as u do.

idk if ur a guy or girl with all the moaning and griping ur doing. u sure u dont need to pull that string out before u put ur big girl panties on?

o man looks like Maddog10, Wakeboarder3780, and JeffreyCH posted useless stuff on the topic u created, u gunna throw a little pissy fit now?


CephalopodOverlord wrote:
If I knew what I was looking for I wouldn't have been asking for opinions.


exactly thats why i gave u the site to look at a bunch of stuff.


GROW THE F UP! u call me out saying i work for this company or know people when i havent even purchased anything from them ever or know anyone at all or even were the hell they are located. ur right i didnt say a damn thing about either board u were considering instead i gave u a site that has a sh it load of boards and bindings with a huge sale going on were u cud look at every single one and thinking maybe u wud come back and say thanks man ya i really like this board and that board and what about these bindings, or simply said ya i looked but i really like the 2 i suggested alot more, do u know anything about them? then i wud have been glad to help u out and tell u the domain bindings are lower end bindings and so are the index, evo gear has a little bit better bindings that wudnt cost u a whole lot more and i think u wud be happier with them.. but no u gotta gripe and moan and now we gotta go through all this just because u are in a pissy mood or to stuck up to realize someone is trying to take time out of there day when they dont even know u to help u out on a wakeboard set up...come on now cant u just be nice and appreciate when people try to help out?but im not saying anything else on this thread, i tried being nice but u made me have to be a dick about it now.. take care and hope u find u a setup.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are concerned about boots not fitting multiple people, look at CWB's line. Their Torq or Vapor boots do a really good job fitting multiple size feet. Now there is no binding that will fit a size 5-13 and be comfortable so you need to be a little realistic when looking for a "multi-fit" boot.

Check the Pure or Kink package, good boards that allow you to progress and a good price.

In regards to molded fins, its a function of board design. The Dually you are riding (which was sweet back in the day of Zane & Parks shredding it) relies largely on the fin for tracking. Modern boards have features that channel the water over its length and affect the way it rides. Basically extra fins are a function of width, old boards were narrow and easy to keep in the water because of this. New boards are wider (because of the increased pop it generates) but when you turn a wide board it wants to slide out and ride above the water, additional fins were required to keep the board in the water, molded fins are simply there always and removable fins come out. Any board with multiple fins is working to keep the board in the water.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys make me chuckle, getting all ass-hurt because someone called out your buddy. And bridges, man, get an education. Reading your posts is like trying to understand some hood from Harlem. Seriously, you didn't help one bit. Get that through your thick Neanderthal skull. It's absolutely amazing how many incompetent imbeciles are sticking up for you. Might as well just get this locked since it's turning into a bridges dick sucking fest.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the winner for THE TOOL/DOUCHE BAG OF THE YEAR GOES TO.....


drum role please .......

yes u guessed right...... CephalopodOverlord

JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR GATHERING HERE BUT IT WASN'T REALLY A COMPETITION BECAUSE CephalopodOverlord WON BY HUGE LANDSLIDE, ACTUALLY HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT ANY VOTES AT ALL.. YOU SHOULD FEEL HONORED, HERE IS YOUR PRIZE AND A WEBSITE WHERE U CAN PICK OUT YOUR OWN DILDO TO SPECIALLY FIT THE SIZE OF UR @SSHOLE, NOW U CAN GET THE FUK OFF THIS FORUM! THANK YOU, AND ONCE AGAIN CONGRATS! WE ALL VOTED FOR U!

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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that solves that. This site has gone to crap. Vulgar, immature, petty and just generally garbage. Good luck wakeboarder.com, it was a good run. There will be times when I will miss what once was. I bid you adieu.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CephalopodOverlord, Look dood, we all take our time time to help people like you out. The fact that you didn't like bridges post is one thing, but the personal attacks are another thing. If you want a bunch of drama and flame wars go to wake world. Fortunately for us asshats like you go away pretty quick. Coming here and calling people names shows your maturity level. I don't see how you could have been riding for as long as you say since you must be about 12 years old.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CephalopodOverlord wrote:

Any other boards I should be looking at?



bridges wrote:
checkout this.. they have a huge sale going on.. buy them separate and its cheaper. 25 percent off everything in the outlet section you can get a lyman for only 165.. here is the link just open the bindings in one page and wakeboards in another and see what u like..


http://www.evogear.com/outlet-shop/wake.aspx
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