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Contemplating on wether or not to put my fins back on.

 
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PostPosted: May 23, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Contemplating on wether or not to put my fins back on. Reply with quote

I'm still working on my W2W and my progressive edge and also my Surface 180's and switch riding. I'm pretty good at Ollies and I'm gonna try some Ollie 180's tomorrow. So guys....Fins or no fins?
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PostPosted: May 23, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I did last year was switch back and forth. I would ride a set or 2 with my center fins in, then take 'em off. I would feel what difference the fins made then ride without 'em to make minor adjustments till I felt my edge was as locked in without the fins. I rode the whole season before with out the fins, and my w2w consistency sucked. I put them in when I got my new board a couple weeks into the season last year, and bam, I was getting consistent pop off the wake. Feeling the difference between the way the board rides helped me dial in my technique.

Oh and watch out on surface tricks, the edges are a bit stickier Wink

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PostPosted: May 23, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK man thanks for the advice! Much appreciated!
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PostPosted: May 23, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that really depends on what type of board you have. I break them down to 3 types.

#1 quad fins
#2 dual fins, with bilt in quad fins
#3 old flat bottom style dual fins

with #1 id leave them in. you can try shorter fins though

with #2 I would take out those fins. the board is gonna be a little looser, and suface trick will come alot easyer. Your gonna want to carve the board more like a snowboard( on the edges)

With #3 Iwould leave them in and try shorter fins


But in the end its all gonna depend on what you like. I took mine off last year and i havent looked back sence. It took 1 of 2 times to get the feel down.

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PostPosted: May 23, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took mine off a few years ago. The board feels a lot more loose until you get used to it but I like the loose feeling it has. As others have said, it's all about personal preference. Try it and see which way you like best. Just give yourself enough time to get used to the finless feel before you decide against it.
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PostPosted: May 23, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muck mine would be #2. It's an 08 PS3.

Smokin I took em off towards the end of last season. It was way easier to do surface stuff. I just felt like I couldnt keep my edge.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

then you're not edging properly. The center fin shouldn't have anything to do with your edging. But if you're dead set on getting another fin on there just go with a .7 inch or something.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would tend to agree with Enygma. If you are cutting out on your edge then your center fin shouldn't be in the water that much at all. I could be wrong though. Like I said though, its all about your personal preference and if you like the feel of the board with the fin in better than with it out then thats what you should go with. It's all about having fun right? If you aren't comfortable it isn't going to be as fun.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the proper way of edging? Thanks for you time guys btw.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever snowboarded? If so it just like that you really kinda just dig in that back corner edge. When I ride my front legs slightly bent and my back leg stays pretty stright. Look o. The site for the learn wake vid's or go on YouTube and look up learnwake
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PostPosted: May 24, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rode finless for the latter part of last summer and haven't looked back, once you learn how to properly edge your middle fin won't really be in the water enough to make a difference, i assume you are probably just turning the board the wake instead of leaning back on your edge, watch videos, ride with others who know how and pay particular attention to their setup from the cut out to the the turn back in to the extension of the legs off the wake, i suggest that learnwake.com site and watch The Book chapters on setup and edging, been riding for a few years and after watching those two chapters again picked up on some things i was doing wrong and helped me be more consistent on my wake jumps, it's the little things that make the most difference in your technique and advancement
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PostPosted: May 25, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mucksoup wrote:
Have you ever snowboarded? If so it just like that you really kinda just dig in that back corner edge.


NO. You put as much of the ENTIRE EDGE of the board in the water as possible. The more edge in the water, the harder edge you can cut on. Using only the rear corner (or rear 1/3) of the board doesn't give you much edging at all. You should be digging in so hard that the rear, middle, AND front 1/3's of the board are all in the water at the same time.

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PostPosted: May 25, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet575 wrote:
mucksoup wrote:
Have you ever snowboarded? If so it just like that you really kinda just dig in that back corner edge.


NO. You put as much of the ENTIRE EDGE of the board in the water as possible. The more edge in the water, the harder edge you can cut on. Using only the rear corner (or rear 1/3) of the board doesn't give you much edging at all. You should be digging in so hard that the rear, middle, AND front 1/3's of the board are all in the water at the same time.


Agreed. Having learned to wakeboard before snowboarding I find the edging techniques to be much different. If you were to completely get on an edge with a snowboard you would either end up on your butt or your face.
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PostPosted: May 25, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not if you're going fast enough on the snow board. But I still wouldn't compare it to snowboarding too much. They are different techniques, but the same idea. You want to be using the edge of the board to steer.

All the people I take out for the first few times have the same problem though so dont worry. They like to try to just turn the board and figure that will steer them. lol, I have a buddy who's been out as much, if not more then me and he still tries to steer this way.

Anyways, dig those edges in and you'll find that you have no problems controlling the board. On my board there is small fins on the center because it's used my multiple people but they're only .7 inch fins. So that I can still easily break the board loose and do surface tricks.
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PostPosted: May 25, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This boards fin was removed and it's not one of the best designed boards either but as you can see it can be edged hard without any slipping even without the fin. As far as surface tricks the fin is only needed if you like to face plant alot when it catches.

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PostPosted: May 25, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet575 wrote:
mucksoup wrote:
Have you ever snowboarded? If so it just like that you really kinda just dig in that back corner edge.


NO. You put as much of the ENTIRE EDGE of the board in the water as possible. The more edge in the water, the harder edge you can cut on. Using only the rear corner (or rear 1/3) of the board doesn't give you much edging at all. You should be digging in so hard that the rear, middle, AND front 1/3's of the board are all in the water at the same time.

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