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Butcher Newbie

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 27 City: St. Louis
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Posted: May 16, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Board feel like its suctioned to the water |
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I have been riding my first board since 05 and love the stability and tracking, but it feel like it bites into the water even when I don' have an edge. It's a 2004 Hyperlite Era 140 with the same model binding which I hate. The board has 2 molded fins and 1 long a$$ removable fin in the middle of each end. Do I need to look at buying a different board or change fins to get more pop? I am not educated enough on boards to know what to look for. Holla back
Like to look at the boards specs.
http://www.wakeboarder.com/products/showproduct.php/product/608/cat/144/date/1064031658
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
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Posted: May 17, 2010 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Butcher, Have you tried riding without the center fins in? There's no reason for them if you've got molded ones.
That board shouldn't be holding you back at all. IMO it's a solid, basic shape. When do you fee like it's 'stuck' to the water? Ollies? W2W? Sounds like there might be a bit of bad technique if you feel like there's a problem (or maybe too small of a board, how big are you?) |
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Butcher Newbie

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 27 City: St. Louis
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Posted: May 17, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: |
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I have taken the middle fin off and the board feels very slick like a snowboard. I was not sure if that would be wise to have when jumping due to the lack of forgivness. The board feels stuck on mostly surface tricks and messes with my head when working jumps. I think when I get fix this "suction" problem my confidence will increase and technique will improve. Let me know what ya think I can do to fix this
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
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Posted: May 17, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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It just sounds like a technique problem to me. Do you have any video of you riding? Maybe someone can help you figure out what's going wrong.
You need to be able to rely on your edge more and not rely so much on the fins.
How big are you (height/weight?). If you're a big dude, the board might be a bit small for you. Also, how fast are you riding? |
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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: May 17, 2010 10:10 am Post subject: |
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If it is "stuck on surface tricks" I'd suggest pulling those middle fins, learning to ride using your edge properly, and never putting them back in again. Ever. _________________
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browneye253 Outlaw

Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 115 City: Tulsa
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Posted: May 17, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Pet, take off the center fins and spend some time carving and getting use to the new feel. Once you get over the "slick" feeling you'll love the added feeling of the board. _________________ My Boat: 2008 Sea Ray 205 Sport w/ Tower
My Ride: 2008 Liquid Force Trip 142 w/ Alpha Bindings
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Butcher Newbie

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 27 City: St. Louis
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Posted: May 17, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| No video at the monent but once it warms up and stops raining I will get it to you guys. I am 6'0" and flux between 185-195lbs depending on how much cardio i am doing. I was actually thinking my board was on the larger side, but like I mentioned above I don't know enough about boards to know whats right or wrong. Been teaching myself how to ride for the past few years and not seeing the progress I would like. Found this forum and can't wait to hit the water loaded with all the info from this site. I am pissed I didn't find it sooner |
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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: May 18, 2010 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Butcher, I "grew up" riding the same way. Self-taught and then found this website. Learned a TON from the good riders on here, and also bought "The Book, Volume 2" for getting my W2W jumps and switch riding underway.
Where do you ride at in STL? _________________
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Butcher Newbie

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 27 City: St. Louis
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Posted: May 18, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| I am looking at buying The Book also it seems to be recomended by everyone on this site. I ride at Lake St. Louis, Missouri River, Lake of the Ozarks 2 1/2 hrs away, and my parents lake house in Central IL which is about 1 1/2 hrs away. I am sooooo ready for the weather to break. Pet, tell me after getting The Book and discovering this site how long or how many seassons did it take to start getting your W2W jumps and switch to the point where you were hitting them consitantly. |
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Butcher Newbie

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 27 City: St. Louis
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Posted: May 18, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd, Any input on my size an speed for the board I'm using? 6' flux 185-195 lbs speed 22-23 mph let me know thanks |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
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Posted: May 18, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| That sounds about right. I'm with the others on this one. Yank out those center fins and get used to really using the edges of your board, it sounds like a technique issue at this point. |
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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: May 18, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Butcher wrote: | | I am looking at buying The Book also it seems to be recomended by everyone on this site. I ride at Lake St. Louis, Missouri River, Lake of the Ozarks 2 1/2 hrs away, and my parents lake house in Central IL which is about 1 1/2 hrs away. I am sooooo ready for the weather to break. Pet, tell me after getting The Book and discovering this site how long or how many seassons did it take to start getting your W2W jumps and switch to the point where you were hitting them consitantly. |
Just curious-I went to college in STL and rode a few times at Carlisle with some friends. Buddy of mine from college used to live at/ski Lake St. Louis, too.
The Book- it actually took me a little bit because of my own ignorance. I started doing all of the board control drills and stuff right away, but still had trouble with the w2w even after watching several times. Finally got someone to get some video of me and what I THOUGHT I was doing behind the boat and what the video SHOWED that I was doing were 2 completely different things. Once I saw that I wasn't actually doing the things The Book was telling me to do, it was a matter of one set before consistent w2w's were coming.
So, my recommendation is to get The Book AND get video of yourself trying to put the stuff from The Book into effect. This will save you some time-I wish I'd been smarter and done it this way. I cost myself at least a month of riding only on weekends. _________________
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Butcher Newbie

Joined: 11 May 2010 Posts: 27 City: St. Louis
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Posted: May 19, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| pet575, Thanks for the input my brother and I are getting serious this season and plan on putting your advise to work. He bought an 09 MC X30 at the end of last year and we are ichin to get out and start ridin. |
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RHB Newbie

Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 14 City: Cleveland
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Posted: May 21, 2010 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| haha well just start riding a wakeskate for a week, then go back to wakeboarding and you can do anything.. |
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