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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: wakeboarding to snowboarding ??? Reply with quote

Ok so this was my first year to start wake boarding I wouldn't say I'm good by any means. anyway with that being said I scheduled a trip to redriver NM, and I a thinking about snowboarding I have never been skiing or boarding so I was wondering if anyone has any tips or websites that would help. I have to do something to get my fix over the winter I am about to go crazy.
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two things that helped for me was to lean forward and be really patient with your turns, especially your toeside turns. When I started doing these things, I finally got it. but yeah, its quite similiar i guess. just those two main things to watch out for. good luck, snowboarding definately helps with the cravings. Laughing
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2009 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say there is definitely a crossover between wakeboarding and snowboarding. BUT, they are exact opposites. I don't know how to say it in text, but watch out for the similarities in the edging. They are similar, and yet opposites. You'll feel the similarities betwixt the two, and if you are paying attention, be able to adjust from one style to the other. Good luck with it amigo!
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when I was 23 I tried snow boarding on a 6 day trip, picked it up and on day 3 or 4 was riding black diamonds. I had been skiing my whole life and wakeboarding for 5 years already.

Tried snow boarding again 8 years later and it kicked my butt all over the place. Decided to try it again last year on the same family 6 day trip the, only this time I approached it that i needed to relearn everything. I watched some online tutorials, spent the whole first day on the green slopes working on technique only. By the end of that trip I was back to boarding in a tee shirt on black diamonds.

Some tips:
- IMO it's MUCH easier to cross over from snow boarding to wake boarding than from wake boarding to snow boarding.
- Edging between the two are totally different, so prepare yourself for not really being any better off for having wake boarded
- "falling leaf" is a really good tool for learning edging, followed by "J turns" and finally "S turns"
- Be prepared to fall a lot.
- When learning I found it really helps to over exaggerate the movements of my back legs for turns.
- Do not try and keep up with friends for at least the entire first day. You are much better off staying on a green slope longer than you really think you need and get your fundamentals nailed.

Finally, faceplants on a wakeboard are NOTHING compared to faceplants on a snow board!
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. I cant wait ......... thank you all for your help.
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was learning my big problem was toeside edging and I know it's a very common problem.
At first when learning to turn toeside you'll feel insecure and most def catch an edge.
So the best tip my instructor gave me for this was:

Right when you're beginning your toeside turn try to stick your belly or tummy out, like if you were bending to look up, this helps to raise your heels and logically the heel edge of the board so it doesn't catch.
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PostPosted: Dec 14, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I snowboard and wakeboard both very well. The differences I know in the two are in transfering edges. There is more leg drive in changing from normal to fakie. A wakeboard you pretty much apply the same amount of pressure when on either heal side or toeside since the board won't flex in the middle. In snowboarding, in normal left foot forward, you can change directions by lifting your left toe up and pushing down on your right toe.

Of course you can also just keep your knees slighty bent and push and pull the board underneth yourself for shredding.
Just remember when you fall, because you will, to try and land with your hands closes or fall on your forearms.... if you can which is easier said than done. This will keep you from snapping your wrists in the hard pack.

Funny thing is I can ride harder on my toe side edge than heal side.


Side Note: Keep your hips/waist inline with your shoulders. This will keep you straight AND, AND, look where you want to go, not where you think you may fall.
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PostPosted: Dec 15, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a skateboard take it on a downhill. Practice S turns down the hill. Much more helpful than wakeboarding.

The key difference between wakeboarding and snowboarding is in snowboarding you steer with your back foot. It will take some getting used to, but generally, lean on your front foot and you swing your back foot to change edges. When you start, this is done by swinging your entire body but as you get better and more comfortable it can be done by just swinging your back foot.

Agreed with the falling leaf, J, then S as far as technique goes. You should be able to find an online explanation for those style turns.

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PostPosted: Dec 15, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so iguess a more detaield question would be...if ive been snowboarding every christmas since iw as younger, started wakeboarding this past summer pretty heavily..when i go is it going to be easier with board control etc?
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PostPosted: Dec 15, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrianABE wrote:

Side Note: Keep your hips/waist inline with your shoulders. This will keep you straight AND, AND, look where you want to go, not where you think you may fall.


Another good tip I got:
When starting out learning, use your lead arm to keep your body in line. If you are riding regular (left foot forward), extend your left arm over the front side of the board and point in the direction you are traveling with your index finger. When you make a cut, keep your arm extended and point to where you are trying to go. This keeps your board, hips/waist, and shoulders all in line. When you start getting out of control or falling a lot, reinforce the pointing technique.

I did exactly what you are talking about back in 2008. I had it down in 1/2 a day and I am NOT a stellar wakeboarder by any means. Just understand edging and understand that you MUST put most of your weight on your front foot in order to maintain control of the board and edge properly in either heelside or toeside direction.

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PostPosted: Dec 15, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd been wakeboarding about 2 1/2 years the first time I went snowboarding. I can sum it up by saying there are similarities and there are differences. Your wakeboarding skills will absolutely help you pick up snowboarding more quickly. The best thing I did was take a 30 minute lesson the first day. After that I was riding and carving by the end of the first day...and I was hooked. Cool
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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

five been wakeboarding for about three years and im a decent rider and wht... went snowboarding over the breakk for the first time in like 5 years or so and forgot how much different the edging was but by the end of the day i finnally got everything back... and got hooked on snowboardingg but on the last run half way up the mountain i hit a backside edge on a piece of ice in the ground and broke my wrist in half lol
now in a cast for 8 weekss
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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found these awhile back, this guy is an instructor and explains and demo's everything from skating to the lift lines, getting on the lift, the carving techniques mentioned above, and more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLgoaDCgJs start with that one, and go through them to get an idea of what you are in for.
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PostPosted: Jan 04, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been snowboarding for four years now and the advice that I will give when it comes to edging is use your front foot to initiate the turn.
To turn toeside you are going to push down on your toes on the front foot, imagine your foot pushing on a gas pedal. This flex your board and get the edge going in the direction you intend to turn. As you start to turn toeside you will lean your body forward over your toes and board will continue on the toeside edge.
To turn heelside you are going to ease off your front footso your toes come off the snow and initiate your heel edge to turn. Remember to ease your toes up like you are letting off a gas pedal. As your board starts to turn to your heelside you will lean slightly back and your board should start to go in that direction.
Once you get single turns down you will want to work on linked turns or "s" turns. This just invovles practice and patience. Start by doing a heelside or toeside turn and then slowly follow the steps for the turn in the opposite direction. With practice you will be able to start to link your turns.
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