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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 6:24 am    Post subject: ATTN: Austin, Georgetown, Leander, NB, Area TX Riders Reply with quote

To: Everyone in the Austin, Georgetown, Leander, NB, Area

The 360 Wakeboard club has elected new board members at the latest meeting. There are actually 3 of them on this forum as well. AtxWakechick (Amanda) , D.S.S.R (stone), and yours trully. There are also 2 more board members, Daryl from numbthumb.com, and a girl from the 360 messge board named Angie. Trace is also a board member and he is covering the Georgetown/ temple side of things to draw in some more members from that area.

On July 13th there is going to be an AA meeting at Mona's (the perd) starting at 9:00 AM. It's going to be the same as usual, $10 gets you a ride behind a boat from one of the major dealers in Austin. In the past South Austin maria has brought out a Supra SSV, Sail and Ski brought out a SAN, Ski Dock with a 22V and a 22iR, boat Town has brought an X-star and X-30 and there have been a few locals that brought out their boats as well (the BU dealer in town sucks at giving support from what I hear). You basically get on the boat with 3 other people and the dealer. You then ride for 4 hours. The object is to get to know some people that you don't normaly go out with and you have the opportunity to try out new boats. Come on out, it's going to be a lot of fun.

With the new season upon us and Waketoberfest 2K3 coming in October I would like to pose some questions to you all.
1) What would you like to see change in the 360 wakeboard club?

2) Where should some of the meetings be held?

3) What has caused you to NOT join in the past and what could we do to entice you to become a member?

4) What would you like to see @ Waketoberfest?

5) Any other feedback that you have?

Some of the things that some of my friends have mentioned is to have a few optional meeting on the water on some afternoons. That way after talking about wakeboarding, we could then go ride. This location could alternate between the lakes, so everyone gets to go to their "home" lake. Some more idea would be to have the meetings at a downtown location or at a sports bar type of atmosphere. I personally would like to see a lot more younger riders get involved and a lot more girls.

Please feel free to write whatever you feel about the club and what you would like to see happen. I know that in the past there have been some things that kept some people from joining, we don't want that to happen. We are looking to make this club bigger and better than any other clubs out there. If you would rather PM or email me about it, that's cool with me. If anyone has any questions about the club, or about anything in general feel free to ask me or any of the other board members.

Take it easy and I'll see ya out on the water!
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What time is that AA thing happening at Mona's? We usually drop in there anyway so we might come check that out. Also, do you have to sign up or just show up and go? I don't have any feedback for you on the club because I don't know anything about it but that's cool you are on the board.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bad about the time: It's going to start at 9:00am, hopefully we can have everyone on the water and out by 9:30. You can just show up at the meetings, there isn't a sign up at all. They are usually held on a weekday evening. Last night's was at 7:30 at Mangia at Mesa and Spicewood Springs. For the next meeting, I will post the info up on here. You guys should come on by, it's going to be a lot of fun.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah man, we probably will do that. Our friend with the boat had to go to Alabama for 6 months for his job and will only be coming home like 1 or 2 weekends a month so we are going to have to find other ways to get out on the water while he's gone. PS if you ever have need another head let me know, I'd love to ride as much as possible this season.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey B-Rad, I have been thinking of coming out and seeing whats up. At first I was two embarresed to come and try to waste yall's time pulling me, but I have gotten so much better. I might be boring to watch, but at least I dont fall as much Laughing I would like to get involved with the club. Ya'll seem to be a pretty cool bunch. That being said, let me try to answer some Q's:


1) What would you like to see change in the 360 wakeboard club? Seeing as I have no idea what you have at the moment, let me suggest some stuff. How about a free X-Star for all memebers...no, damn Wink . JK, but I do like the demo day thats coming up in July, and how about some instructors come out for the day. Peeps pay like $10 a person, and it would be more like a group class instead of individual. Not sure if you can do this, but trade discounts on gear for members for free advertisment at events and website. Kinda like a wakeboardclub discount card. I was president of the Golf Club in college (got club of the year thankyou), and I talked to a bunch of courses and Driving ranges, and they gave whever carried the card could get discounts on green fees and like and extra bucket of balls for free. Just little stuff like that, but it worked. We also had contest with other golf clubs from other colleges. It was all in fun of course!


2) Where should some of the meetings be held? I think Ski Shores would be perfect for a meeting. Pretty easy to get to, and a big deck. Or we can all go to Ludwigs and tip the door guys hundreds of dollars Wink !!! Oasis, carlos and charlis, Salt lick just to name a few.


3) What has caused you to NOT join in the past and what could we do to entice you to become a member? I havent joined yet cause I sucked at boarding. ( I only started in January)

4) What would you like to see @ Waketoberfest? BEER, GIRLS, ummm......hmmmmm, hold on, what else, I am trying to think???? Did I say beer, damn I did...girls, yup said that already. How about having dealers there with some of there boats. New gear to demo.

5) Any other feedback that you have? I am very interested!

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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dpierce37 wrote:
Or we can all go to Ludwigs and tip the door guys hundreds of dollars


Best idea on this board ever!

Thanks for putting the effort in B-rad. I will chime in with my ideas in a little bit...
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds awsome hopefully i will be there. My only imput is to have the meeting at Ski Shores that place is awesome.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Waketoberfest we have already secured a boat ad crew. The guys at South Austin Marine are providing us with a gravity games edition Supra SSV. We are also looking for other sponsors to cover a few other costs. It's going to be at the pier again this year. Most everyone camps out at Emma Long. We can't offically have the event at Emma Long anymore though. according to Hunter the city of Austin is now charging a large (between 1K-2K) to hold the event out there.

Dpierce37- I think you have some good suggestions and I would like to work on some of them.
1)On the dicount side, that is something I would love to see. I know that we have a 10% discount at a new sunglass shop that is opening off of braker. I will get more details on it and let you know! I also know of an online discount through another club that I am a member of.
I think the idea of having a class/ instructional is a great idea. The only issue in the past is having people show up for the event. I know a few decent riders in the area that wouldn't mind at all giving a few pointers on what works and what doesn't. This will defiently be brought up at the next meeting.

2)Ski shores is a good call- noted for future meetings

3)Everyone should join regardless of skill, the more you can ride the better you will get.

4) I'm with ya, the best way is to get as many people out there and spread the word. I would like to see people from Dallas, Houston, and any place in the world come down to Austin for this event. So start spreading the word, 2nd week in October is the date as of now.

The more people we can get to the meetings the better they will be and it will make our club a lot more stronger. Keep em comin with the idea's!

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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about after the event, hold a concert were up and coming punk rock stars can play. I am sure there are plenty of small bands willing to play just to get there music heard, especially here in Austin. Maybe pay them a little bit or something. Have a big ass Bonfire. Almost an outdoor rave kinda thing. Say $20 bucks a head, have beer, bands, bbq. Maybe instead of bands, have some DJ's spinning. Now were on earth could we hold this epic event....that is the question!
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey b-rad,

5. other feedback...

- how about an email notice a few days prior to meetings and get togethers? (i'm not sure if it already does this or not)...would be a helpful reminder.

- are there any set days or common days where most people go out? i think it would be cool to have a day during the week and/or weekends when the "360 gang" goes out in force. i've met a few folks from wakeboarder.com, but none from 360....would like to meet up with some folks.

- is there a profile of club members on the site? it makes it easy to recognize people and/or their boats out on the lake Smile
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The website is getting a total revamp right now by Amp hosting. I think in the near future the profile section will be a lot better and have some more pertiant info on it. It looks like as of now the only type of email notification is on the 360 message board. Overall though, not a lot of people know about the MB on 360 and it's not that active. I'm sure that we can do something to the effect of an email blast. If anyone that is interested, you can pm me with your email info and I will shoot it out to you guys if worse comes to worse.

DP- Hunter was talking about the band idea last night. That is another one of those deals with the city that requirres permits, and a lot of before hand planning. That is what we are looking to do right now though. If a band is what the majority of people would like, then we can look into getting in contact with the right people and start talking to local bands. We would like to get that sort of info from you all, so that we can plan to do events and make them a lot better.

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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to do bands, it would probably be pretty simple to set up something at the Pier. A couple of weeks ago South Austin Marine had a Supra customer appreciation night there and had a couple of bands and everything. You could work out some way to split the door charge with the bands and the club or however they want to do it. That way you don't have to get any kind of permits from the city or anything. I also know several bands in the area who could play, or it isn't exactly difficult to find bands looking for gigs in this town.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B-rad,

Congrats on being elected as a Board Member last night. It's a lot of work, but you should have a blast doing it.

I was a board member for the club from 2000 - 2001, before I moved to Phoenix. I by no means want to step on the new Boards toes, but I thought I could answer some of Dpierce's suggestions based on my experience.

Dpierce,
First off, I'm glad to hear you're considering joing the club. The club members are a great group of people, always have a good time and are very inclusive, no matter what your ability is or whether you own a new $50k wakeboard boat or a $5k outboard. They're just happy to share the stoke. Hopefully, you'll have a great time.

On the concept of a discounts for club members. That has been thoroughly and sometimes hotly discussed in the past. The thing you have to remember is that dealers want to support the club and the sport, but they are still a business and their goal IS to make money. Their were a couple of problems dealers had, one of which was abuse of the discounts (not by 360 members). Apparently, the dealers who also sell winter gear (snow ski, boards, etc.) gave discounts to the snowski clubs and such. Unfortunately, their were alot of people who would join the club just to get discounts and would not participate in any club events what-so-ever. The dealers saw individuals benefiting, and the clubs suffering . The other problem is that dealers only have so much money for promotions/sponsorships and any time a discount is given to individuals, that comes out of sponsorship money they could give to the clubs. So, as board members, we decided to work w/ the dealer to benefit the entire wakeboard comunity/club, rather than non-participating individuals. By dealers not giving discounts, they can put more money into sponsoring club events; Waketoberfest, Aquaholics Anonymous, bringing in pros for clinics, etc. etc. Another plan we considered and received warm responses from the dealers was that when a club member went to a participating dealer, spent money & presented their membership card, the dealer would track the amount of $ spent by club members. Then at the end of the year, would give a % of that back to the club in a lump sum. Again, this benefits the entire club and it's members and helps rid the problem of non-participating members taking advantage of discounts and the hard work that participating club members do.

As far as Ski Shores goes as a meeting place, I think most people will agree that it is by far the best place for club meetings. The problem we found was attendence at these meetings. We would try to schedule the meetings late enought that people could get off work, hit the lake and get a set or two in, then come to the meetings by boat. Unfortunatly, wakeboaring is too darn addicting, and once people started riding, they never showed up to the meetings, they would stay out until dark, then take 1/2 hour to an hour to get to the meeting, which by that time Ski Shores was closing down and people were ready to go home. So even though, Ski Shores is the most fun place to meet, we had the lowest attendence of about any meetings when we met there. It also doesn't help that it is very difficult to get to by land for those people who couldn't go riding before hand. That is why we started moving meetings off-water; attendence improved greatly.

My goal wasn't to shoot down any ideas, I'm glad you are excited enough to offer suggestions and participate. It's members like you that make the 360 club so strong and so much fun. I hope you join up, you'll meet a lot of cool people.

And congrats again to the new Board Members.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B-rad,

1. I have never been a member, but the website could use an overhaul. The layout is not conducive to effective surfing and it needs to have someone update it every week/other week. I hit it every now and then, but I can never see anything that relates to me, so I just go somewhere else.

2. I like the idea of moving meetings from lake to lake. I love Austin, but riding on different lakes with different people would be fun. Meetings on Saturday mornings at a different lake with riding planned after would be cool.

3. I never joined because I never had a reason to.... How does joining benefit me? From what I could tell, there was just a couple of people involved, not a whole bunch. I think that is in direct corelation to the website issue - Without seeing who is involved, how can I as a prospective member, see who I would be associating with?

4. Personally I like Waketoberfest because it is the only weekend when the water is clear! Everyone is at Emma Long/Ski Shores watching the contest, but I would rather ride than watch people ride. Last year's Saturday of the comp was one of my best days out. Make the comp 2 days long!!!

5. I would contact Raider Lefty and Buttafly about DallasWakeboarding.com and GulfCoastWakeboarding.com respectively. They can likely give you some good advice as I know the Dalals club is thriving....don't know about GulfCoast, but their site kicks ass and Bfly is always pimping it, so I am sure she would be more than willing to help get 360 crankin'.

5. I do like that the Dallas site has it's own bbs. That's where Raider Lefty is when he isn't on here. The demographics for those who own boats and those who are tech savvy and own computers are very similar - I know there are more people in Austin willing to use a bbs than post here on wb.com. Just take a look at the Dallas site and you will see 50 people you never see on here.

I am glad you guys are taking the initiative to boost the club. I have marked July 13 on my calendar and DPierce and I will definately be there.
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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you on the website. There does need to be large overhaul on it. There is so much info on the Dallas site and GCWA, that tends to make people want to join a lot more than an atiquatied (sp?) site with little or no information. I'm on Dallaswakeboarding.com and I think the site is very user- friendly as well as always having updated pictures and info on the latest comps and events.

Nick- Is this the same nick that used to work at Ski Dock? I had heard things didn't work out and you were back in Austin. I'm now guessing that isn't true. Gald to hear that you are still doing good in AZ. Thanks for any more info that you can provide.

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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B-rad,

Ya, I'm the same one. No, I'm not back in Austin, but I heard that rumor as well and I have no idea where it came from.

I'll send you a pm.
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B-rad,

I am the President of GCWA here in Houston. I have been trying to get involved with 360. We are having an event on the Perd mid July.. I am looking for someone to do a clinic out there for a few people who are interested. I would also like to get 360 involved to make it a bigger and better event. Who do I need to talk to?
We are wrapping up the plans Thursday hopefully.. Please hit me up on email..
I have left email for Stone, message on phone, and communicated a little with Hunter.. Please get back to me..

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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Brandy-
You have mail!

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PostPosted: Jun 17, 2003 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride out at Bastrop on the Weekends. It is just down the road form the house. Does anyone form the 360 club go out there? I am a new to the sport, but I am learning more every time we go out.
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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if there is anyone from Bastrop that rides with 360. I can ask and find out. I know that we have some people come up from SA, temple, and belton. So there is always that possibility.
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Just wanted to chime in with my two cents. Ski Shores is always my meeting place choice ( I live less than a song away by boat ) but as Nick stated, the attendance always seemed to dwindle. I would love to get a tournament schedule in place with the Houston and Dallas clubs, we've tried this for the past couple of years with the Dallas crew but never seemed to get anywhere. It looks like Brandy has a good thing going in H-Town and getting something going with them looks good. The website issue has been taken care of. In the past anyone with website design knowledge has never wanted to give away any FREE time to help out the club as others have done with other clubs but we have some good people working now to give it a much needed face lift. As far as music at Waketoberfest, last year I had three great bands booked at the Pier (punk, hip hop, and metal) but thanks to one of our sponsors (no need to drop the name) they decided to give away free food at the park while the tunes were playing and almost nobody even knew the bands were playing. I'm stoked to have some fresh faces on the board to help out this year, Hunter and myself were getting a little worn out from the lack of help and it was starting to show this year. Look for some great events this year from the 360 crew!!!!


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Question, What ever became of that article written to the city about having the wakeboard tourny on Town Lake. I read the article, very well written I might add, but as of yet, have not heard anything came from it. Thats would be an ideal location. You could have people on Auditorium shores, and along the bridge.
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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

town lake would be a great spot for tournies....didn't they used to have power boat races there at one time? seems like it...anyhow...if they allowed that, don't see why they wouldn't allow wakeboarders for a tourney. especially a pro tourney.
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here is that article:

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The folowing is my latest letter to the city. Hopefully the city will abide by their own rules and gives us a chance. If not, we will probably start circulating a petition to be followed by a protest (our boats on Town Lake - perfectly legal as long as we don't start our engines)!

At this time, I think it would be pre-mature for us to start a letter writing or telephone campaign; again, we will probably follow up with a petition. If anyone is buddies with the mayor, Jesus Garcia or any of the council members, it could help (let me know).

October 17, 2000 Kirk Watson, Mayor City of Austin Ste. 103 124 W. 8th St. Austin, TX 78701
Dear Mayor Watson,

Obviously I am disappointed with your letter dated September 12, 2000 regarding the use of Town Lake for a water skiing tournament (see attached Exhibit 1). My disappointment arises from the fact that your office has just given me the same "canned" answer as that of the others within the City of Austin. It also does not address the issue for which I contacted your office. The City of Austin has failed to follow its own ordinances regarding the use of Town Lake §14-2-2 and the City of Austin is in violation of state law in its failure to properly respond to my open records request; specifically the Austin Parks and Recreation Department (APRD) has ignored or failed to acknowledge 2 open records requests that I have made!

I do not wish to make an issue of the violations of ordinance and law. My goal has been, and continues to be, to work with the APRD and the City of Austin to return water skiing tournaments (on an occasional and orderly basis) to Town Lake. The reasons for my open records request were: a) to better understand how I might go about accomplishing that goal, and b) to demonstrate how a ski tournament would have far less impact than the rowing regatta since the rowing regatta uses several ski boats and covers a distance on the lake 4 to 5 times that of ski tournament.

The following is a chronology of events to date:

I sent a letter dated March 6, 2000, to the APRD requesting the use of Town Lake for a water ski tournament (see attached Exhibit 2). On March 17, 2000, I received a response from Jesus Olivares, Director of APRD (see attached Exhibit 3).

Since §14-2-2 specifically states that the City Manager is to review any request for use of motorboats on Town Lake, I wrote to Gloria Aguilera (March 28, 2000) for assistance (see attached Exhibit 4). I then had a meeting with Betty Dunkerly, Interim Assistant City Manager (the specific date I do not recall). She told me that she would look into this matter for me as well as research the "legislative intent" of the city ordinances as they pertain to the use of watercraft on Town Lake. I followed up that meeting with a letter dated April 12, 2000 (see attached Exhibit 5). She did not respond in regards to "legislative intent" nor did I receive anything from Jesus Garcia, City Manager; instead, I received another denial from Jesus Olivares dated April 20, 2000 and a copy of the city ordinance pertaining to watercraft on Town Lake (see attached Exhibit 6).

I was well aware that ski boats were utilized by the rowing/sculling clubs annual regatta because my boat has been utilized for two regattas. When I spoke with Mr. Garcia about this, he denied having any knowledge of the rowing clubs using ski boats. Subsequently, I delivered an Open Records Request dated May 8, 2000, to the office of Mr. Olivares (see attached Exhibit 7). I received a response, dated May 17, 2000, showing 1 permit issued for the construction of the pedestrian bridge (see attached Exhibit Cool.

Shortly thereafter I spoke with Mr. Olivares by phone and he told me that the rowing club had a different agreement to use ski boats for their regatta. Of course this annoyed me as he had previously informed me that he was not even aware that they used power boats for the regatta. Subsequent to that conversation I sent another Open Records Request dated June 2, 2000 (see attached Exhibit 9). I believe the language of the second open records request is adequately broad to cover any "agreement" that the City of Austin and the PARD may have with any rowing club. The response to my second open records request was dated June 21, 2000 (see attached Exhibit 10).

I then contacted your office Mayor Watson. My first phone contact was apparently lost by an intern. I then spoke with Cindy Cervantes by phone, specifically asked your office to address the issues of the City of Austin failing to follow §14-2-2 and the apparent lack of response to my open records request. The response I received from you was dated September 12, 2000 (see attached Exhibit 1).

Now, specifically in regards to §14-2-2 subsection (C) "any person desiring to use a motorboat . may apply . on forms furnished by the city". It was not until I received your response of September 12 that I even received such a form (in which you tell me it will do no good to submit the form). §14-2-2 subsection (C) also states "Such application shall thereafter be submitted to the City Manager, who shall consider such factors as safety, noise, pollution, nuisance, and the general welfare of the public in making his determination ." To my knowledge, Jesus Garcia, City Manager, has not made a decision on this issue as required by this ordinance; all of the responses I receive are from the Director of APRD and not from the City Manager.

Your letter to me dated September 12, acknowledges that the APRD is aware of and has allowed exemptions for the use of power boats on Town Lake for the annual rowing regatta per §14-2-2. As such, you confirm my allegation that the City of Austin and the APRD are not in compliance with my open records request.

Your letter to me dated September 12 is the first written response from the city that I have received as to why a water ski tournament cannot be held on Town Lake. The reason stated is noise. That is a specious argument as I have proposed to hold the tournament on the portion of the lake just east of the I-35 bridge. A modern water ski boat is not loud; certainly no louder than the traffic crossing the I-35 bridge. Also, if a modern water ski boat is so noisy as to create a public nuisance, I presume that the APRD has already documented complaints regarding the noise from the annual rowing regatta.

As to the other considerations of §14-2-2 which the City Manager is to consider:

Safety: The tournament would be held under the guidelines of INT and would carry liability insurance in case of a mishap. A water ski tournament, like most athletic endeavors, is safe. The portion of Town Lake was chosen by me for the location of the tournament as there is very little canoe traffic through this area and the lake offers wind protection in this area which enhances the quality of the water and hence, the safety of the competitors. Also, the safety of the citizens of the Austin area that are forced to travel outside of the Central Texas area to find water upon which to compete should be considered.

Pollution: A modern inboard water ski boat operating for a year would probably cause less water pollution than the small outboards used by the rowing clubs cause in a day.

Nuisance: Previously addressed in regards to noise and safety. It would certainly be less nuisance than just about anything the city allows at Auditorium Shores.

General Welfare: There are numerous boat and ski stores in the Austin/Central Texas area with thousands of water ski enthusiasts living here, many of whom are nationally ranked. It is virtually impossible to hold a safe water ski tournament at Lake Austin, (except during the winter months) due to the overcrowding that exists there. Walter E. Long lake is not plausible as a location for a tournament as there is no protection from the wind. We currently cannot use Lake Travis or several of the private lakes in the area due to drought conditions. Also, in regards to the general welfare, a tournament of this nature would bring athletes from around the state that will contribute to the economy of Austin.

In summation, I hope that you and your office can assist me to see that city ordinances are followed and that due consideration to my proposal be given. I certainly do not wish to cause any harm to the local sculling clubs and canoeing community; I have only included them in this discussion to demonstrate the lack of equity being provided to the water ski community. The fact that my open records request has been subverted and that I have been given misinformation has become another whole issue in and of itself which I will gladly ignore if the city will now honor my second open records request (see attached Exhibit 9) and then give due and proper consideration to my application for the use of a water ski tournament on Town Lake.

Sincerely, Larry W. Mann, DC

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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2003 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Mann has been working on this for years now. I would think with the current economy in Austin that this would be our best chance in a while to get this done. The city is looking for any kind of revenue. I have a verbal commitment from Scott Clack of World Publications (the guys that run the pro tour & WB mag) that if we can lock down the site we would have an annual tour stop. Larry let me know what I can do to help, let's re-lite that fire and get this going.
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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2003 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Stone,
I too talked to Scott at the VTC event in Ft. Worth. He was very up beat about having a pro tour event in Austin if we could look down the site. He said they have always wanted to come to Austin, it's just locking down the site and the particuliars. I think it would be wonderful if we could manage to get an event on Town Lake. Hopefully we can get this thing going strong.

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Anyone go to the red bull flutage at adutorium shores, well if you did, there were peeps all on the bridge, along the 1st street side, and on the shore at A. Shores. Its a perfect place for this event. Plenty of places for spectators. I can see it in my head!
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Hey Stone. I talked to B-rad today and tossed some ideas his way. I would very much like to get Houston involved.. Lets do this..
I would be more than happy to come to Austin to meet everyone in person if we could do it on a weekend not conflicting with events I am a part of..
I think our "joint ventures" will be greatly rewarded..
This will help in growth of sport, events, sponsorship, marketing for wakeboard companies in Texas, etc. etc..

Lets make a good time for us to get together via chat or in person on a weekend to discuss possiblities.. I am totally ready to run with this when everyone in the "new board" has okayed..
Keep me posted..

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Tell me this would not be a prefect local...I will help if need be!







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I'm with you 100% D, I think that would be a great location and provide some good $$ for the city while providing us with a great time.
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