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Backroll first attempt on a rough day....

 
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Backroll first attempt on a rough day.... Reply with quote

So we went out last week and it was rough as all hell! Figured we just screw around while the ladies didn't wanna come out in the bad weather..... Anywho I was reading up about a backroll and decided to joke around and "show them how it's done". To my surprise I actually got some rotation going so I tossed in a few tries. My question is, is it at all possible to get a backroll off a tiny boat, and tied to the rear cleat. I know I was attemping the spin to early after watching the vies, and I broke a binding in the process so some are really bad, but any advice?

Vid here, just one try, look at my other videos for other tries....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxftYu64jmI
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course its possible! search the net for videos of what Byerly was doing with basically no wake, foot straps and uni directional boards in the early 90s, its insane!

its alot more difficult, but if you can do it on a shoddy wake with a low tow point, then if/ when you ride behind a wake specific boat, you will rip it up! Much better to learn with crappy equipment and go on to good stuff later than the other way around - obvuiosly though the ideal situation is to just only ever ride behind amazing wake specific boats but if thats the case, your a spoilt brat (or overpaid Very Happy - jealous much???)

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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You definatly need more air.. try to bring the trick straight up, since you have such a little wake
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's deffinitely doable with your wake.
Take a progressive cut at the wake, make sure you ride all the way up the wake, as you leave the wake, try looking at your lead shoulder, spot the landing and you got it.
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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope I have fun either way, just fixed my bindings with duct tape and bright golden spray paint..... Built a makeshift pole to try out today but it's calling for crap conditions here.... Whatever I'll just screw around a few more backrolls till we get some lightning.... I mean your getting wet either way right?
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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not 100% sure but could his progressive edge be alittle bit of the problem. I'm new to wakeboarding but I'm just goin off vids and posts i have read. I thought you was suppose to flatten the board out then start making a progressive edge. Like there is real bad slack in the rope just after you cut out and start to come back in toward the wake. But like I said i'm not 100%.

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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah as i stated it just rough out i couldnt get a progressive going without a roller pulling me right back off, my slack isnt normally anything like that, lol. Sorry the vids are misleading... crap weather all week, as soon as we get wind under 20mph ill toss some good ones and film it... Thanks a bunch for the tips though!
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I will say is that you need to make a very fluent cut out, flatten off and make the same cut back in on your load and release edge. The way that you're holding your cut away from the wake so long that you're actually being pulled back towards the wake is throwing off your entire motion. Next time you try it, and for any trick, sit in the trough and for a second and when you're ready ease up the wake and back down making a strong progressive cut out to where you want to begin your cut in. Immediately level off and coast until the boat initiates your cut back, and make the same solid progressive cut back toward the wake. With your knees locked and chest out, you can definitely pull it off behind your boat.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...You call that rough conditions? I call that a beautiful day. That looked like MAYBE a 5 k wind. Come back when you regularily have to ride in 15-20 k winds or don't ride at all.

Now that we're past that. you look to be riding a little too far back for the wake your boat can throw. No chance at going W2W there. Plus The wake was all washed out. Maybe trim er up 1/8-1/4. That DOUBLES the size of the wake my boat throws. as well as cleaning it up a lot.
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