BS 180

abrider · Criminal Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 98

I am working on doing BS 180.

My question is, should I be doing this TS or HS, normal or switch?

If I start switch and do the trick TS, then I land regular and HS which seems the easiest to land, but the hardest to take off.

Any thoughts?

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

I would definitely recommend doing the HS BS 1 switch if you can get the pop, but I'd learn the TS regular. That's just me, but as some point you'll want to know all of them, so go with what you feel most comfortable with.

abrider · Criminal Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 98

Medina · Posted: Aug 19, 2009 10:43 am Post subject:

TS BS 180 Is alot easier, i think Smile

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

abrider, I think you just answered you own question. I always feel like I rush the trick doing it switch. But, for me, I'm very comfortable landing HS switch, not so much TS switch. I'm like you, I'm still working on just a ST TS w2w because the pop is just not there. I always seem to leave the jewels in the boat when I hit the wake switch TS.

b33nine · Soul Rider Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 311 City: Salem-ish

Medina · Posted: Aug 19, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject:

Sorry dude as always, here is mister Cable Laughing

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

b33nine · Soul Rider Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 311 City: Salem-ish

THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!

Medina · Posted: Aug 19, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject:

JeffreyCH · Posted: Aug 19, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject:

Medina, LMAO

b33nine · Soul Rider Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 311 City: Salem-ish

Medina

abrider · Criminal Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 98

back to business....

HS takeoffs for BS spins might be longer in that when I hit the wake HS, the board is just about perpendicular to the line of travel of the boat, while TS the board is at about a 45 degree angle. Better riders might get the board more around TS.

Either way, on takeoff ceoms back to parallel with the boat and then around to parallel wit hthe boat but 180 degrees turned. So in a HS spin, we actually go about 270 degrees, while in a TS spin we go about 225 degrees.

On the other hand, HS jumps (at least for me) have a lot more air to them.

I guess this is why FS spins are much easier. In a HS 180, one only need spin about 90 degrees, and a TS FS 180 one spins about 135 degrees. To keep an edge I like to spin a little more but YMMV.

All this geometry is a killer.

b33nine · Soul Rider Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 311 City: Salem-ish

my input would be:

I myself wouldn't touch a switch backside 180 heelside or toeside. I just don't release off the wake to where I feel actually comfortable in the air to try and spin backside. The release is pretty important to spinning backside and you can get off kilter real quick on those.

I would start with a normal hs bs 180. Do them in the flats first. Then try and do inside out 180's. Then try and take them to the wake.

It's definitely a trick that can ring your bell for sure, but I haven't found them to be so bad that it kept me from trying again.

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

Prizzy · Soul Rider Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 360 City: Milwaukee

TS BS 180 regs is defanetly more easy for me... i come from a skateboarding background and think the steeziest trick on a skateboard by far is a popped and poked bs 180 and when i do them i drift "over my toes" if that makes any sense. I drift in the same direction you would if you were going w2w toeside. i learned emm 1 wake slowed down then half cut full speed into middle then w2w.

ctgretzky99 · Posted: Aug 25, 2009 10:40 am Post subject:

IM landing the HS BS 180 around 50% of the time now, the other 50% hurts Very Happy

What helped me a lot was doing bs surface tricks out in the flats to set an axis/get the feel for the rotation and the handle pass.

I cant seem to land the TS BS 180 Mad

I have a full day on the water tomorrow...going to try and perfect the HS BS, and land at least one damn ts bs. Either that or I get a concussion.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

I'd definitely go with hs regular. Start with the ollie BS and then go from there. It took me way too long to get that trick consistent but it's one of my favorites. Just make sure to lean over your toes on the landing and pass the handle low.

I've tried a few toeside and I always have too much line tension. I always over-rotate the Switch HS.

ctgretzky99 · Posted: Aug 26, 2009 7:33 am Post subject:

Going out tomorrow instead. I finally have a real FULL day on the water from 9 to sundown on a buddy's boat. Ill try and get some vid of my hs bs 180's, and HOPEFULLy some good hs fs 360 attempts (and possibly a landing? Laughing

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colefooter · Posted: Aug 26, 2009 8:54 am Post subject:

If you are good at halfcabs the switch hs bs 180 was very easy for me to learn just pass the handle first before trying to land blind

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

I actually started working on ts bs last night. It actually felt a lot better than I remember. I only attempted 3 of them but I can tell that once you get it, it should be easy to duplicate. I just had to really focus on pulling the handle in before the pass and passing super low.

ctgretzky99 · Posted: Aug 28, 2009 7:02 am Post subject:

I had a full day ot yesterday, and my hs bs 180 is now about 75% of the time.

The ts bs 180...no dice Mad

Either missed the handle or couldnt stick the landing every time. After 45 minutes of JUST trying it, gave up for the day and just rode for fun again.