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nwjetboater Newbie

Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 City: Bremerton
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: New Wakeboard normal wear? |
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| I just bought a Hyperlight Motive board from a local sports shop. I took a quick trip to the lake to try it out. All went well, nice board for my beginner skills. I noticed when I got home the bottom of the board seemed beat up for only one run. The molded fins are scratched up and the entire bottom of the board is scratched enough to dull the surface. I only road for about 20 min. in fresh clean water. Is this normal? I took it back to the shop I bought it from and they said it was normal. I don’t know if I am buying it? |
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JeffreyCH Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2205 City: Lincoln
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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That's weird, and defiantly not normal unless you were hitting rails or kickers, or logs in the lake? I've had my '07 HL premier since last year, and bought it used, doesn't have a scratch one on it, no dings in the molded fins, nothing, still looks new. I would contact HL directly. _________________
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taitrt Soul Rider

Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 413
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Just so you don't make an ass out of yourself... are you sure there's not a protective coating on it (like one of those adhesive clear plastic sheets)?
My friend tried to return his iPhone because he said the screen scratched really easily... moron never took the protective plastic off out of the box. |
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Chad H PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 6449 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Where did you put the board when you weren't riding? Concrete and other surfaces can scratch one up pretty good. |
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flixmaster Site Owner


Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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That is a good point from Chad H. Did you transport the board from the lake in the back of a truck or other area that could cause the scratching? Maybe the floor of your boat if it is not carpet?
I do not see how water could cause any damage unless your lake is full of floating junk. _________________ Wakeskating
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Did you transport the board from the lake in the back of a truck or other area that could cause the scratching? Maybe the floor of your boat if it is not carpet?
I do not see how water could cause any damage unless your lake is full of floating junk.
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Wakeboarder3780 Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 1334 City: Wausau
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Guarantee it wasn't the water. It was the swim deck, dock, or wherever else you put your board on (if you were standing when you put it on). Boards aren't that fragile, they only get scratched when you scrape them across harder surfaces than themselves..
Sliding is the worst. Even if you slide it across carpet, if the carpet has sand or little pieces of gravel you might as well be sliding it against some 80 grit sandpaper. _________________ Today is a chance to become a greater person than the person we were the day before. |
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scott a Ladies Man


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| taitrt wrote: | Just so you don't make an ass out of yourself... are you sure there's not a protective coating on it (like one of those adhesive clear plastic sheets)?
My friend tried to return his iPhone because he said the screen scratched really easily... moron never took the protective plastic off out of the box. |  _________________ www.TheLiquidPlayground.com
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nwjetboater Newbie

Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 City: Bremerton
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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EDIT: Sorry had to fix the link to my pics.
Thanks for all the input. And I wish it was some shipping plastic still on it, even though I would feel like a dumy.
Here are some pics...
I understand why you would think I wakeboarded with it on the sand but I assure you this board went from the store to the back seat of my truck to the boat where I adjusted the boots and put it in the water. The lake does not have any sand bars and I saw no debris while on the board. The shallowest water was at least 15 feet. I have a cheap no name brand board I learned on which is two years old and it has no such scratches. I think this has to be a manufacturer’s defect. I am going to contact Hyperlight and see what they say. I will keep you posted.
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Chad H PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 6449 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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nwjetboater,
That doesn't look too fatal. I'd just ride it. The most hyperlite will do is replace it with another motive, which in this case would just make it prettier and make you lose some time on the water. It'll get scratched sooner or later. |
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ronix_brendo Criminal

Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 63 City: Goulburn, Australia
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Posted: Jun 12, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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yer man, scratches arent goona effect ur riding. and they are gonna happen eventuly whether u like it or not. so jus go out there andenjoy ur new board !  _________________ -=BrEnDo=- |
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taitrt Soul Rider

Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 413
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Posted: Jun 13, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| That looks like unbuffed wax... can you scratch a filmy layer off with your thumbnail? |
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flixmaster Site Owner


Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488
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Posted: Jun 13, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Some of the pro boards from HL will have marks on the board from finish sanding around the edges. I am not sure what those are from. You can always bring it back to the place where you bought it but there is really nothing wrong with your board.
Was the board in plastic when you bought it? If not then maybe it happened at the shop before they sold it to you. Did they maybe sell you a demo board?
I have seen returns for all kinds of reasons. 99% of the time the board is fine. Like others say. Your board is only going to get worse the more you ride and move it between your car and boat. _________________ Wakeskating
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Riddick Outlaw

Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 212 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Jun 13, 2009 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Wakeboarder3780 Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 1334 City: Wausau
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Posted: Jun 14, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I say ride it some more. Those scratches arent bad at all. If the bottom starts to really decompose after some more wear, then think about bringing it back as there may be something wrong it. I used to be really into keeping my gear look great, then someone stole it - and I never went back. Ride the crap out of it and enjoy it while you have it. _________________ Today is a chance to become a greater person than the person we were the day before. |
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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Jun 14, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Looks cosmetic. Ride it. If it starts to delaminate or something like that by the end of the summer then take it back. Otherwise, it won't change the riding a bit.
And GOOD GOD MAN, that middle fin is ginormous! Maybe just the camera angle, but that think looks like it came off of Jaws' back. Get it out of there and learn to ride without it! _________________
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ctgretzky99 Addict


Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 938 City: somewhere southwest CT
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Posted: Jun 15, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the "ride it" sentiment. I tried keeping my board all pretty nad nice in the beginning, and it took about 2 weeks to get it scratched up. Now it looks like Freddy Krueger raped it.
I have only improved with my scratched up board. _________________ One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them. One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. |
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nwjetboater Newbie

Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 City: Bremerton
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Posted: Jun 16, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the feed back. I will continue to ride the board and if it gets a lot worse or delams I will take it back.
And yes the fin is big. It came with the board and I am a newer rider so I figured I needed it? for now. |
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ctgretzky99 Addict


Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 938 City: somewhere southwest CT
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Posted: Jun 16, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| nwjetboater wrote: | Thanks for all the feed back. I will continue to ride the board and if it gets a lot worse or delams I will take it back.
And yes the fin is big. It came with the board and I am a newer rider so I figured I needed it? for now. | Keep in mind, with that much fin, when you go to take it off it will be almost like starting over.
It will give you a false sense of edging, imo.
When I took mine off (and they were small!) the first day out I was sliding a good amount all over the water and had to re-learn to edge a bit.
If I could do it again, I would have taken them off on day one. _________________ One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them. One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. |
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xjsnxillusion Newbie

Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 26
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Posted: Jun 16, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| so is it bad to have bottom fins? -im a beginner as well |
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ctgretzky99 Addict


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Posted: Jun 16, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| xjsnxillusion wrote: | | so is it bad to have bottom fins? -im a beginner as well | Not bad, but most pros or wakeboard coaches will tell you they are a crutch of sorts. It usually keeps you from learning to edge properly, and larger fins will make slides and surface tricks a bit more difficult. The larger the fin, the more you rely on the fin vs. edging as well.
Id say leave them on to gain confidence, but shed them as soon as possible so you learn to edge the board properly.
There is no "right or wrong way" in my opinion, but I did notice once I dropped the fins, I learned (forced) to carve and edge better (properly?), was able to learn surface tricks easier, and my riding improved and stabilized since I could now "feel" the board track.
My wife has hers on, but plans to drop them soon as well.
YMMV. _________________ One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them. One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. |
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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ctgretzky99, the problem with what you are saying is that your board has large molded fins that allow it to have plenty of traction "finless". If you were to completely remove the center fin on this guys Motive it would be a lot more slippery than your Byerly. I'd agree that his board has too large a fin on it, but going to completely finless would be too much for a beginner.
As per the original issue, just ride it! Wakeboards aren't supposed to look nice. Even if it has cracked rails and busted molded fins it will ride well. |
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Chocoholic Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 363 City: Dubai
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Posted: Jun 17, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well I'm going to go against the grain here and say take the board back. A defect is a defect which ever way you look at it, and if you say you're just going from your back seat to boat to water, and not going across any rough or hard surfaces then this shouldn't happen at all. By accepting the 'defect' you're basically sending the message to the supplier that it's okay to sell boards which as substandard. I know our Hyperlite dealers here certainly wouldn't accpet that.
With regard to the large fins, I'd ride them for a while till you're confident with balance and edging, then change them out for smaller ones. They're damn big though! If you remove them straight off, it will be like starting over as your board will go fast and squirly.
Personally I ditch the central fins altogether, but that's just the way I like to ride. But also backing up what Stephan has said, I ride a Blur which has similar large moulded in fins, so they track better than smaller ones. You might want to try just getting rid of the big fins altogether. _________________ Suck it up and get hardcore! |
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Christobull Addict

Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I agree with everyone in some ways. No, it's not going to effect your riding, but yes, at the end of the season, get it replaced. You won't lose any time on the water and you and you will probably get the current year's model of that same board. As for the fins, I went from... get ready for this, 3" center fins on my first board with no molded fins and a continuous rocker. I thought all boards were hard to break the fins loose and it slowed my progression. Now I have an Apex with molded fins and 1" center fins. I barely notice the difference whether they're on or off, but I prefer to have them on when I'm riding on glass because it's pretty rare to not have a little chop being a weekend rider. I don't know why, but I just can't adjust to it. So, I put them on when I can see undistorted reflections in the water, but they are off otherwise. I think the guys are dead on when they say it makes you learn right the first time without them. _________________
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