Need Boat Advice!!

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

So heres the deal last year after boat show I bought a 07 Moomba outback had boardracks wet sounds ect added since was my first brand new boat.
Now lookin to trade loosin 4k in the process my options are 08 but new mobius lsv or a supra 21launch and keep my speakers or a 05 24 sunsport or of corse I can wait and see what happens after the san antonio show since the austin didnt bring too good of savings
any advice would be helpful or ideas!!!thanks guys!!
Mark

jonyb · Addict Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 844 City: Paducah

You're gonna lose money on a trade no matter what.

Buy what makes you happy though.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

yea im fine with that just curios from the expierenced guys which boat seems the best to buy since there all the same price
o8 mobius lsv (new)
06 21 supra launch
o5 24 sunsport supra
or wait n see? Question

jonyb · Addict Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 844 City: Paducah

I'd wait. I doubt much is selling right now.

leviwynnyk · Posted: Jan 25, 2009 6:48 am Post subject:

Have you looked at the Moomba XLV? Its a nice big boat and you can get it new for only a little more then an LSV. All three boats would be great though, so it depends how much room you want.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

yea i like the lsv but in the 08 they have left i dont like the colors on it

flixmaster · Site Owner Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488

I would not get the 05. I also do not think you are going to have much luck at the San Antonio Boat show. I hear that show is not as big as a 'wakeboard' type boat show. More fishing boats. I am not even sure what dealers are going to be at the show. I would guess TSR since they did not have MAstercrafts at the Austin show since BoatTown is the Austin MC dealer. Maybe Sail-Ski will have some Correct Craft boats since they have a store in San Antonio.

We might try and go to the SA show just to check it out.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

Whats your opinion on the new lsv versus 06 launch?

flixmaster · Site Owner Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488

I owned a 05 24 SSV. I have not seen the new LSV and do not know much about the 06 Launch.

Get someone to take you out on a boat demo. All the dealers in Austin will arrange for a test drive. If you want a Supra(Hunter) is the guy you need to talk to in Austin, Malibu(Kevin Brown), Correct Craft(Tommy), Ski Dock(Scott), MC(I don;t know a MC salesperson in Austin).

We are going to be at the Hula Hut with Malibu the first week in Feb. I think Feb 7th? Boats in the water ready for test drives.

If you want to call me direct I live in Austin Seven-Eight-Nine-3149.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

thanks I will ive been dealing with Greg there but I think I will go to that hula hut deal since thats where i launch and am familiar. Ill give you a call so if you get a call from a 405 number thats me. Im also thinking waiting a few more weeks wont hurt but the anticipation of a new boat is killin me

flixmaster · Site Owner Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7488

waiting is never a bad thing just give me a call if you want.

Okie Boarder · Ladies Man Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

lived there for a little bit in Austin for about 4yrs never swithed numbers

bonsaitree · Outlaw Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 198

TSR and S&S will both be at the San Antonio Boat show. I expect S&S to have a 210, 220, and 230 air and probably a couple runabouts. I would guess TSR will have at least an Xstar though they have a small area compared to S&S and Master. Master will probably have a little bit of everything nonwake specific, though I wont be surprised to see them take a caravelle or a chaparal all decked out with tower, speakers and ballast.

As far as your boat situation I would just sit on the boat you have and pay it off. Trading in right now is only gonna lose you money like you said but you probably wont get as great of a financing deal because of the general economic situation. Unless you HATE your outback just hang on to it and ride. Very Happy

http://www.sanantonioboatshow.com/showinfo.html

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

dont hate is just want somethn better dont want to loose xash on a new one but want a better boat what about a 06 supra or x1? versus a 08 lsv new? what do u guys think?

wake eater · Soul Rider Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 272 City: knoxville

i haven't been behind a lsv. my previous boat was an 05 21v & that boat is awesome. we put @ 3k of ballast in it. the was is pretty steep with alot of verticle pop. the only reason i got rid of it is i was offered a smoking deal on a 08 22ssv & liked the newer features.

dbismyname · Posted: Jan 27, 2009 7:37 am Post subject:

how much you wanna sell it out right for?

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

my moomba?

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=63994&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=70 its on the bottom has 40 hrs on it they only want to give me 22k everywhere else but supra they want to give me 26k i owe 31k

dbismyname · Posted: Jan 27, 2009 8:43 am Post subject:

Oooh, so even if you sold it out right for 26k like they're offering you'd have a difference to pay out on your loan before you could go shoppin for a new one. In this economy it'd be tough to take that kind of hit on your boat for a trade in. Probably best off to take the extra money you'd be spendin and just start payin your outback down. If you load it up with sacs can't you get a decent wake out of that boat?

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

yea decent but i only financed it for 5 years so ive got a hefty payment new loan is longer term but dont mind it putting a bunch of cash down

Chattwake · Posted: Jan 28, 2009 6:18 am Post subject:

No offense, but this is how our country got in this mess.....

dbismyname · Posted: Jan 28, 2009 7:27 am Post subject:

only if he has his boat on a home equity loan. People losin autos, boats, and other toys did not hurt it that bad. The banks still make their money off of those situations. However banks loaning out 100% and above on houses playing off of the rising house prices is what took us down. I personally watched as fellow bankers booked home equity loans for 125% in a special from a bank I will not name. This is why I am in small town banking now. We actually stick to some credit guidelines and do what is right for the customer, not our profits.

This message was not intended to offend anyone who works for any large commercial banks or brokerages. /disclaimer

Chattwake · Posted: Jan 28, 2009 7:48 am Post subject:

I'm just saying the general notions that, "I don't care how upside down I am on something, I just WANT something NEW," and, "who cares what I actually owe, so long as my monthly payment is lower," are not at all fiscally responsible.

This kind of thinking contributed greatly to the current crappy state of the economy.

Okie Boarder · Ladies Man Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond

I agree. Don't go into more debt for a boat. Not only is this not a good time to do it with the economy and all, but it makes it even harder to catch up. Sooner or later, you have to pay the piper.

dbismyname · Posted: Jan 28, 2009 11:56 am Post subject:

I hate watchin people do it all the time. Yeah I'm goin to buy a brand new truck for 45,000. dude you make 20,000 a year.... yeah but they're gonna finance me for 10 years so I can afford the payment. 2 years later they haven't paid any principal and they've paid 4,000 in interest. The worst part is the company that will allow them to trade and finance their new vehicle for 150% of its value with 14% interest. It's really sad to watch.

But hey, as long as the monthly payment is low right?!?!

pet575 · Posted: Jan 28, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject:

02lightning, +100,000. I can't stand the sense of entitlement our generation has. That and the "if I buy this, it will make me FEEL GOOD" approach to life. Ghey.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

yea but you dont know me or my circumstances so yea and I dont have a home equity loan or I wouldnt be buyn a boat and I do have a brand new truck a traded one with negative equity on now a year later i only owe 50% of my loan so dont judge so many others worry about yourself! Laughing

Okie Boarder · Ladies Man Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond

Well, go for it then. Buy the new boat and roll the negative equity into it. Then pay it down to 50% of its loan and you should be fine in a couple years.

dbismyname · Posted: Jan 30, 2009 6:34 am Post subject:

well there you go

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

absolutly I plan on three years at 50% but i understand what u are sayn but im not one of those peoples but advice on boat is helpful!!

Chattwake · Posted: Jan 31, 2009 5:29 am Post subject:

Ok. Well, considering you'll be rolling negative equity into a new boat, you need to buy something that's going to hold it's value. I'd go for a left over vlx, lsv, x1, or SANTE210. An 09 Moomba will put you 10k in the hole by this time next year.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

yea exactly thats the advice im asking you guys for. I think a 07 supra 21 launch would hold its value better than a 08 lsv mobius but dont know?

Chattwake · Posted: Feb 01, 2009 7:18 am Post subject:

Neither are going to be stellar. The supra should be a safer bet. However, what are you looking for in a boat? Have you considered an X1 or X2 or 210? Used MC's and CC's that have already taken the initial depreciation hit seem to be holding their value fairly well.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

Well guys I picked it up today a 07 Supra 21V blue and black I added bunch of wetsound stuff Im soooo stoked cant wait to get it on the water!!!!!!! Mr. Green