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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: ts 360 with video, help... Reply with quote

I don't get why I go off-axiss if I try the 360. Need some advice...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQVAOYa9TWs
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you put the video on www.vimeo.com??? I can't get YouTube for some reason. Don't ask me why. I have ts 3s dialed though. Maybe I can shed some insight.
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch that looked like it hurt Surprised
i think ur trying to spin too fast with not enough pop off the wake
nice mastercraft though

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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks already for your help.

http://www.vimeo.com/1722546

here's the vimeo adress.

Bass69. It didn't really hurt because we slowed down the boat. Tomorrow I'm gonna give it an other try, will wait longer for a better pop and spin later, well that's what I want but I don't know if my body will listen to my mind...
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya. General rule for spins is don't spin right off the wake like that or you'll go off axis every time. So cut in, wait for good straigt up pop, and throw it.
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that helped me was to pull your legs up and try to keep your chest over your toes
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea youre definitely rushing it, and your throwing your shoulders back as you pop which adds to your weight being way back on your heels. REALLY wait. The best way to do it IMO is to pop off the wake and do a perfect TS FS 180 with the handle low and near your hips and right when you get the handle to your opposite hip then tug it for the handle pass and the last 180. If you do this youll stay on axis. Dont worry about underrotating. For this trick its much better to underrotate. It makes the landing easier (it locks you in and leaves you on edge) than overrotating (youll land on your heels and have to try very hard not to fall on your butt, probably meaning you have to slide sideways, spray water everywhere, almost fall, then get back up) Ive never caught an edge on a TS 3, even when I learned them and was doing about a 270 and landing and sliding the rest around.

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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like LFADAM, said. think of 2 180s. also, to get the landings right, try inside out switched bsckside 180s...
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be already telling you something you know, but since you slowed down the boat, it is going to be harder for you to clear the wake. I'm not sure if this concerns you or not right now. It might be better to do what you are doing! Yeh maybe just do one-wake ts 360s until you really learn it, then speed up the boat and take it wake-to-wake.

Um, yeah I would concentrate on doing ts 180s where you finish rotating the trick with time left to spare in the air. Once you can do this, now you can start thinking about the ts 3. Keep both hands on the handle for the first 180 and keep the handle in close. Then, start initiating the last 180. You can do the last 180 one of two ways. You can think about landing blind where you just pull the handle into the small of your back and lean towards the shore (putting weight on your toes). Or, you can think about passing the handle but you still want to put weight on your toes. It's important to keep the handle in close though!!

Another thing you can also try is slowing the boat down and trying Ollie ts 360s. That may or may not help. Worth a shot though!

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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thnx for all your help!

I tried it again yesterday and we slowed down the boat just a bit and not so much as in the video.

I waited and thought about first jump than rotate and styed on axis and did the handlepass, landed on my board against the second wake but then I get a pull on the handle and let it slip out of my hands... almost there. Unfortunatly they didn't know how my camera worked so I don't have it on video. Next time I'll give it a try I will post a new video.

thnx again for all the advice it really works:-)
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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would not try switch inside out bs 180s, those are harder then the ts3 in my opinion hah.

Your throwing it early, make sure you pop first before you throw it.

Also, you dont have enough speed, you need to hit the wake harder to go wake to wake.

Do you have solid wake to wake 180s?
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What helped me the most when I first started landing TS 360s was to just look at the back of the boat as long as possible, then pull the handle to your back hip. And of course have your TS 180s on lock down. I had a problem with over-rotating and it looks like your doing the exact same thing I used to do.
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How ya making out there man? Getting any closer on the trick? Give us an update.
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PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you look pretty close buddy, keep at it Mr. Green
just remeber to keep the rope at you waist, and that might help you stay on axis
lookin good Smile

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