When you do an S-bend

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

We are not fighting, we are honestly trying to help you understand how rotations are defined.

Your drawing is right, but you are looking at the bottom of the board and that reverses the rotation. Rotations are based on how the rider is standing on the board, so whichever way the top sheet spins will ALWAYS determine the spin direction. Your drawing shows how the bottom sheet spins, and that is the opposite of the true direction of the spin.

Terminology is a beyotch, but it does have a standard and it is agreed upon and thats why people on this forum jump on errors and try to clear things up and help others out.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 04, 2003 10:51 pm Post subject:

I know which way bs spinds and fs spins are, and yes that is from the back of the board but it is also from the boarders view jus back a few metres and and the board doesnt spin oppostie ways to the rider does it now? and im taking this from the riders view, not from the boat peoples view i know if u watch a goofy s-bend from da boat it would be anti but not from the riders view which i have said countless numbers of times

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about now. As long as nobody else is confused I will leave it alone, this is just not getting anywhere. Let this thread die before someone starts throwing frontside 180's and calling them s-bends.

Josh R · Posted: Jun 05, 2003 6:07 am Post subject:

Counter Clockwise.

Get up out of your chair. Fold your arms across your chest. Now imagine you are all layed out up in the air. Visualise you're there. Now imagine your about to start rotating the same way as in this picture:

Now as your standing there, imagining, begin to move your body around like you are starting to rotate like in the pic. Which way are your shoulders rotating?

Thats right, counter clockwise...

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 05, 2003 11:10 pm Post subject:

Yeah but hes layed out isnt he, if i was 2 lie on the ground and do it i would spin clock wise and thats how an s-bend is done lying down (except in the air). And in that pic he is rotating clock wise, so if i was in hes position i would be rotating clock wise.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

You know come to think of it we have been wrong this whole time! We need to call the president of wakeboarding and have him amend the terminology constitution, everyone has been seeing things backwards since day one! I am a born-again rider, I now know that goofy s-bends are a clockwise rotation!

...haha just kidding man, your description is still ass-backwards, your last attempt to clear things up by rolling on the ground 'clockwise' would be a frontside spin, which is not a s-bend.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 06, 2003 7:02 am Post subject:

Aight then well u do them like that and ill do them the other way... but tell me, y is it when i c a vid of an s-bend its done clock wise? maybe u wit ur knoledge so great can answer this cause im stumped how u ppl can say that they r anti clock wise

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

You are not an A student are you Laughing

j/k

Lets start from the beginning- which way do you spin on a plain old goofy backside 360? Clockwise or Counter?

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 06, 2003 7:25 am Post subject:

JUst 2 answer ur first ??? no im not... but u cant tell me u get straight A's either?
Any way back 2 the point of this thread u havnt told me y goofy s-bends in vids are done and i do know that bs spinds r counter clock wise

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I have 22 different wb videos, s-bends are done the way we have been trying to explain. I will quit giving you a hard time, I am just joking, but please do hear me out--

Goofy backside spins are counter clockwise yes indeed. A S-bend is a layed out backside 360 (handle held overhead)-- thats all it is, so the rotations don't change, a s-bend is a backside spin with a counter-clockwise rotation.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 06, 2003 7:52 am Post subject:

Ok 4 sake of further arguement ill stop but not cause ur right but because its stupid arguing wats it gonna prove in the end we r both gonna think we r still right, but ill have 1 last shot and call it quits... in a vid of higher ed (zabe shwenk-he is goofy) said that when u go 2 the raley u want 2 dip ur head in2 ur arm pit region and he puts hes head in2 hes right arm pit now im sure this would initiat a spin going right so if ur all layed out ur going 2 spin clock wise. And unless i have a sudden urge 2 fight again that is my last post ere unless u agree wit me of course

jason_ssr · Posted: Jun 06, 2003 10:35 am Post subject:

You all have the move correct, But Josh and Sh*tbrick are more accurate. It is counter from both boat and rider. If the rider were to look down at his board during the trick he would see it spinning counter as well. Spin is dtermined by a rider in relation to his board not in relation to where he is looking.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I have only been wrong approximately 9 times my whole life.

This is definitely not the 10th.