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Nautique Super Sport 210 or Ski Nautique?

 
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PostPosted: Sep 11, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Nautique Super Sport 210 or Ski Nautique? Reply with quote

Are any of these good wakeboarding boats?

I`m not sure if a Nautique Super Sport 210 is the same as the Super Sport Nautique that appears in the Chart in this forum?

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nautique is the company. "Super Sport" is the model.

It's the same boat and a great wakeboat for the money, usually.

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you mistyped and meant to say "Ski Nautique" then that's a very different, and not a very good wakeboat.

The only "Ski Nautique" that has ever been a good wakeboat is the 1980s "Ski Nautique 2001."

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad, what about just a 1980 Ski Nautique? thats what i have
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

81 is when they first made the 2001. I really don't know much about Nautiques before that. I've seen some that look like they'd be decent, but have never had any experience with one.

How do you like it?

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad, its okay for me cuz im a noob still but i want to improve the wake and these boats are tight quarters. any ideas? ill get a pic of it sometime
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess about 1000 pounds at a 60/40 distribution. That would be a good starting place. say 600 pounds by the back seat, 400 under the seat. Should be a quality wake.
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was thinking taking out the back seat and setting a sack there, that way theres weight and seating
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad, thanks for the info. I guess the 210 is just the length of the boat.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Super Sport is a Super Air without the tower, ballast ect. Same boat, different accessory package.

There are a few people who think this boat is worth wakeboarding behind, I am one of them.... Wink




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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad wrote:
81 is when they first made the 2001.


Sure but they are actually 82 model year boats.

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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywood, interesting, I didn't know that.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just like automobiles, the 2001s are 82-89.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this has been brought up - I'm beginning to think that 2001's might be reaching the end of their lives...

Whilst I've been a massive advocate of them over here in the UK and always encourage people to bring them back to life. I believe they are awesome boarding boats and an ideal platform for those on smaller lakes with the need for a cheap workhorse.

However, just recently the last few I've worked on have been real dogs - rotting floors, water in the plywood that is sadnwiched in the bow, failing motors etc etc - anyone have any thoughts on much much longer these can actually go on for? What is a reasonable lifespan for them? and is it worth simply re-building time and time again to keep them afloat? a part of me says yes but unfortunately I'm beginning to think the 2001 era might be entering end game...

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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brit Rider, I think you might be right. With wakeboats dropping in value due to the economy and gas prices, boat prices are dropping. I'm sure there are still a lot of quality 2001s out there, but as a breed, the ones that aren't meticulously kept are probably on the downward trend. The 90s Sports and 205s are starting to creep into that price range.

Honestly, the cheapest boat I would probably try to rebuild or put some money into would be an Excel. I just can't deal with a hump in the middle of the boat anymore.

I did know about releasing the model year one before, I just thought they made an 81 model.

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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brit Rider, I see where you're coming from, but I disagree on a few points while agreeing with others.

From what I know, you run in salt and I presume the 2001's you've worked on have also seen a lot of salt. That heavily contributes to/speeds up the wood rot in the stringers and floors.

What IS coming to an end, thank God, is the spike in prices we've seen for these boats in the past several years. 13,000 for a Ski Nautique 2001 - total madness and I hope this is over. The boats are still super good at the 5k-8k mark, even for 88-89 models. Wakebrad, brings up a great point that I have written about;

http://www.wakeboardreport.com/archives/2008/06/the_tenthousand_dollar_sport_n.html

...which is that the Sport Nautiques and ProStar 205s are now entering a price range that is very attractive, and is in all ways a better option than the 2001 dollar for dollar.
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik, Actually, none have been salt - Though Yup I'm a salty old dowg thru and thru Laughing Embarassed

I have another 2001 install coming up in a few weeks so maybe that'll break the recent outburst of poor examples I've recently been working on.

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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are only getting older and fewer so it's quite natural. Doesn't matter to me though my next SN will be one generation older anyways.
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are only getting older and fewer so it's quite natural.
Of course, but thats my point - are we now coming to a close for the boat? Seems like most will be coming to the end of their life soon... unless there's a following strong enough to keep rebuilding them from the ground up.

Nice choice on the old 210 hull - I still have yet to find a wake I like more.

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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wakeboarding owners my die off meaning there will be 2001s with tiny holes in the decks, but the classic CC owners will not.

I meant my next boat will be a generation OLDER than the 2001 series hull, early 70s Ski Nautique.

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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I meant my next boat will be a generation OLDER than the 2001 series hull, early 70s Ski Nautique.


Beautiful boats!

My all time favorite CC for all around use is the 95-98 Sport/Air Nautique. Still holding pretty good value in the NW. When you see them they are going for around $20k. Considering I paid $25k for mine new in 95 that's pretty good resale. Still trying to talk the wife into letting me sale our 04 SAN to go back to the SS.

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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywood, Oooh, did not realise that. I love the classics but I'd need alot more time than I have to get one back upto speed (well, unless I could find one that'd already been restored).

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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rappleby99,
I rode behind a super sport 3 times in august. We had roughly 2500 pounds in it. It's a fantastic wake. Super steep, and plenty large. I would say it's one of my favorite wakes so far. Go for the Super sport.
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PostPosted: Sep 21, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chad H,
Thanks for the feedback. Actually, I`m very close to get it, however have some transportation issues (from California to Panama)
I have the $$ ready, agreed with seller, but the problem is that apparently there are no ships that can transport the boat if it is not inside a container. And the boat is wider that the container. Some freight forwarders are trying to find a way to ship it.

Meanwhile I`m looking for boats in FL, as there are Roll in Roll out ships in Miami port, so they can ship any boat without a problem.

If anyone knows a way to solve my problem, it will be greatly appreciated. Too bad we don`t have wakeboard boats in Panama for sale
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a owner of dozens of boats over the years including, ski boats, whalers, cigarette types, and a proud owner of a 87 2001 I must say that I'm truely impressed with the quality of a Correct Craft. The old girl is solid, rattle free and while upholstry and other wear outables, ( hoses, carb, starter etc) have seen updates the basic boat is remainng sound and useable, and for a ski boat has a decent ride. I now have kids and will be upgrading to a roomier Nautique in the 90's vintage but I for one will remain brand loyal.
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i love my 2001
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