360's!

TxnRipper · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 24 City: Houston,TX

I have been wakeboarding for about 2 weeks now....well at least really wakeboarding. I used to do the occasional go with my friend and ride deal, but now that i have a boat i go about 5 times a week. Well i can already do wake to wake jumps. I have pulled a couple of easy grabs but im ready to move on. Now I tried a 360 all day one time out and finally pulled one off....the only thing is that i let go of the rope. Everytime i try to transfer the rope behind me i dont consentrate on my rotation and i usually under rotate. Any tips guys?

Mythodikal · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 3:10 pm Post subject:

yea go and tie a rope to a tree in your back yard or a door nob in your room and practice that handle pass .... also when u come off the wake give it a lil tug b4 bringin it to your back to give a lil slack freein up the handle for the pass ... makes it alot more easy

Jake0306 · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 3:12 pm Post subject:

Just something probably stupid souding that helped me, everytime you get a chance think about how to pass the handle. Go find an extra handle. Tie it to a table leg or something thats not going to move easily and has carpet around it. Then strap on your board and just practice spinning and passing the handle. You really get a good rotation if you practice this some. Good luck!

^he beat me to it

Mythodikal · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject:

hey TxnRipper, by the way there is a tourny close to u near beaumont on the 21st ... u should deffinately check it out contact PFSTX@aol.com or WakeRyderX5@aol.com for more info

Nick · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject:

Don't try to spin it right off the wake, wait for the pop and at the peak of your jump pull the handle to your hip and pass it. If you do like CrzyBrdnPlaya said it helps out alot with passing the handle.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Jun 03, 2003 11:49 pm Post subject:

Try a few bs 180's with the handle pass or switch ones they are easier for me then 360's but like alot of things its what u feel comfortable with doing first

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 04, 2003 12:57 pm Post subject:

Don't worry about the spin, just pass the handle and the trick finishes it's self....

As you leave the wake don't for one minute think spin, think PASS the handle and don't let go until you have it in the other hand. You can literally do nothing else after passing the handle and land the trick smooth, the boat unwraps you the rest of the way.. of course you need to pull in oder to pass but don't think spin think pass.

TxnRipper · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 24 City: Houston,TX

Well guys i tried again yesterday, but the result............just got home from the hospital. I got a concussion and went into a brief seizure. Looks like i will be out of commision for a couple of weeks. Thanx for all the tips guys ill need them when i come back.

Adam

Mythodikal · Posted: Jun 05, 2003 6:46 pm Post subject:

dang playa ... doesnt sound too good ... im guessin under rotation catchin the hellside edge pretty hard .. yea my session was over after that sweet lil move too ... but tokein helped out to get rid of the throbin pain ... accute memory lose isnt that bad when your wasted ne ways

Stephan · Guest

Damn that's a response, he follows advice and gets a concussion. I'm sorry but the irony is almost too funny. I wish you a quick recovery and get out there and STOMP that 3.

PS - You might want to look into a helmet

TxnRipper · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 24 City: Houston,TX

Yea I do have a little bit of a memory lapse.....don't remember much of that whole day. I probably should look into a helmet but havent decided yet. Rolling Eyes

I should be pulling off this trick next time i board....this isnt gonna slow me down. Later

Adam

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 09, 2003 8:13 am Post subject:

Maybe you are not ready to try 360's yet....
You need to progress into harder and harder tricks you just can't slap a board on yo feet and start bustn' moves, yo.

Don't be "THAT GUY" this is a classic example of that guy....
I just go this great setup for Christmas now I want to be a wakeboarder. I have never ridden before so explain how do I do that superman thing, I want to try that trick first?

Everyone picks stuff up at different speeds so pushing yo self is good just don't push too hard, obviously.
Hope your head feels better and don't be afraid to go after that 3 again.

Partyb · Posted: Jun 09, 2003 8:39 am Post subject:

Yea, what jdogg said. txn"ripper" never even said he could do a 180. All he said was that he can go wake to wake and some basic grabs. Can he go wake to wake toeside? He should not be trying 3's until he can do all 4 180's (heel, toe, switch heel, switch toe) wake to wake. A 3 is a hard trick, and you can take some nasty falls. How many of you when learing 3's landed heelside, back to the boat, caught the heelside edge, and got body slammed. I remember those. I doubt he has the pop for it yet. I would venture a guess that for people who can do a backroll on this board, that their backroll is more consitent then their 3. Maybe he should be trying backrolls also after two weeks of boarding. Two weeks of boarding, at 5 times per week, is 10 times only. IMO. Gotta go, working on my speedball today.

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 11, 2003 9:04 am Post subject:

Partyb - I couldn't agree with you more....

I spent an entire Saturday tryn' 3's landing backwards and taking a pounding, getting up to try again only to spin around but have no handle... I must have done 20 or so in two sets. I was a well rounded rider, HS/TS 180's Switch HS 180 and all sorts of grabs and pokes I was clearly ready for the trick. What I see and from my post above is people are not progressing into tricks they are strapping a board on doing a few W2W jumps then going for the gold, this is a painful way to learn.

I learned the HS backroll in one set with 5 tries. I tell people all the time that the backroll is easier than the HS 3 any day and they look at me like I'm on smack. Of course those two tricks are part of my standard arsenal now but I can honestly say I had an easier time learning the HS backroll.

I'm not sayn' that's what TxnRipper is doing but it sounds like it.

Partyb · Posted: Jun 11, 2003 11:46 am Post subject:

MUCH easier time learning hs backroll, and especially getting it consistent.

WakeChick21 · Newbie Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 2

come on, man. you shouldnt b scaring people like that saying u just got back from the hospital and all...im a newcomer to the sport and i learned a ton and i went out the other day after reading ur reply and every time i was in the air i would think about "the kid that got sent to the hospital from trying a 360"...and i couldnt stick a single trick...i mean, tell me u were jking or something so that i can go back out there and stick some ticks...u sacred the hell out of me!

WIDE-A-WAKE · Soul Rider Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 370 City: Otis

Partyb, you really think that hs backroll's are easier? I think three's are but maybe not, i dont know.

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

Stop being a Taco Bell Chalupa wakechick

Maestro · Posted: Jun 13, 2003 7:53 pm Post subject:

Yea it sounds like you probably weren't ready to try a 3. I spent so much time smacking my head because I was trying to do wrapped BS 3s before I was ready. I got scared of them, worked on becoming more well-rounded, and then I decided to give one a go a and landed it first try. I know people want to stick the sickest trick, but it's all about progression and building up to a trick, not just hucking it until you happen to stick one.

As far as the backroll vs. 360, I learned on a minute wake so I always thought 360s would be easier. I was too scared to go inverted, so I never tried the backroll. It took me forever to get 3's down consistently. I tried backrolls a couple times when I went riding behind nice boats. I landed one on probably my 7th or 8th try (spread out over a year or so though). Definitely not a hard trick to learn.

On the helmet issue, I would suggest against it. Last year I thought it would be a good idea so I wore one. They definitely help with faceplants as they break the water before your skin so you don't 'smack' your face. BUT I was throwing threes one time and I caught my BS edge and slammed my head. I don't know if it was the extra surface area of what, but something increased the strain on my neck greatly. It hurt a lot, but I got up and kept riding. Next three I tried the exact same thing happened, except this time the pain was SO intense. For the next two weeks I couldn't do anything that involved jumping without pain. Everytime I touched the water for the next month it started to throb. I was taking painkillers so I could ride. I know some people swear by the helmet, but I'll only wear one if I'm hitting sliders.

WakeChick21 · Newbie Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 2

Bubb Rubb you criminal

Maestro · Posted: Jun 16, 2003 8:21 am Post subject:

Well, he's got a point WakeChick21.... Injuries are a part of the sport, and if being scared about getting hurt is going to stop you from riding, I'd suggest you find a new sport to participate in. You know the risks, now go out, have fun and defy them! Don't whine about being scared about getting hurt and tell people to not tell you what can potentially happen while you're riding. I think it's a good thing to know what the risks are rather than go out all confident and screw yourself.

hundel · Criminal Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 93

WakeChick21, people get concussions all the time. I'm glad they post about how it happened so we can learn to avoid them. The story was not made up to scare you. I agree that 360s can produce big injuries - usually when you're not ready for them. The fact is that if you come close to landing a trick you will rarely get hurt badly.

Anyway, I get tired of people acting like wakeboarding is somehow a "tough guy" sport. I think a lot of times they're trying to make the sport exclusive. If you want a sport you can be a tough guy and try to scare people away from, try skating or bmx.

TxnRipper · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 24 City: Houston,TX

I know i wasn't ready but i was just doing it to see where i stood. I actually landed one 360 w/out the rope. I am not that consistent landing w2w jumps.....1 out of maybe 3.....but im getting there. Sorry if i scared you wakechick....theres really nothing to be scared of...if you get a concussion like i did you wont even remember it so its all good Rolling Eyes