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PostPosted: Sep 10, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: gotta question before death Reply with quote

i am dying to try a toeside backroll are they really that hard or am I probaly going to take some nasty falls, I think this is a sweet trick and i definantly need a toeside invert to work on

any tips for first attempt?

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PostPosted: Sep 10, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just don't half ass it. edge all the way through the wake and let the wake do the trick for you. most that i see on the site, people edge in and just throw it real hard backwards. that's not what you want to do. go all the way up and lean back while going up, but don't back off your edge while doing it. make it one smooth motion the whole way through. sounds kinda confusing, but just let it flow.
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PostPosted: Sep 10, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Ohio Wake said, definately edge through the wake. It's easier to get around than you think if you do it right. If you try to just huck it around you'll probably come up short and it'll be real ugly and you won't be able to spot the water. Pull all the way up the wake and keep your handle at your hip. Of the base inverts, this is probably the most important one to edge through the wake
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It feels just like doing a forward backflip on a trampoline. As said, don't half ass or you will regret it. Edge in hard and concentrate on pop. Pop pop pop. Hit the wake, keep the handle in tight, and try and kick yourself in the head. Don't come out of your "ball" until you know you can do it without catching an edge.

Epic, wouldn't TS Fronts rely more on carrying your edge through?

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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QNev wrote:

Epic, wouldn't TS Fronts rely more on carrying your edge through?


You actually back of your edge on a toe side front. TS backroll requires a progressive edge. TS front roll you charge the wake hard and back off your edge a bit as you switch edges. TS front is actually a "trip flip", similar edge to a tantrum.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what ohio said but I'd also add keep the handle at your hip. I was under rotating them every time until a friend told me that. If your handle is not at your hip it will kill your rotation.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your rotation speed has everything to do with where you keep the handle. If you pull it in to your hip, you'll flip faster, if you let it out in front of you it will halt your rotation. So hold it in tight as you flip, once you're finishing the rotation let it out to stop your rotation. This is an easy trick to over-rotate, cause you need to land on your toe edge/
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks everybodies i didnt get to try one cuz we didnt go out this weekend but hopefully we will get to go out next weekend
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tried a few today and i have got to say, i half assed the attempts just trying to huckem, and on my last attempt i smacked my balls prtty bad, but i am ready to go back out there and just take some huge attempts
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This trick does lend itself to some painful nuts. Just make sure you're pulling all the way through the wake. It'll do 2 things, helps ensure you don't throw it too early and will get you the pop you need so that you don't need to huck it. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad wrote:
what ohio said but I'd also add keep the handle at your hip. I was under rotating them every time until a friend told me that. If your handle is not at your hip it will kill your rotation.


If you have a trampoline try with the handle out and then with it in near your hip and you will see the difference for sure.
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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