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eeven73 PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 5377 City: Halfway
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 9:35 am Post subject: Yes means Yes. |
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http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/29/california-leads-rape-culture-means-law.html
Quote: | An affirmative consent standard in the determination of whether consent was given by both parties to sexual activity. “Affirmative consent” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity. It is the responsibility of each person involved in the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the affirmative consent of the other or others to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent. Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent. |
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Quote: | Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. |
Glad I am not in the dating pool, but am scared for my son. So tragic that it has to come to this. How many yes's are enough.
Really reminds me of the Sexual Harrassment orientation they gave us back in the 90's at the start of freshman year.
Trainer: It is strictly forbidden to create a "hostile environment" violation will result in expulsion.
eeven73: Well, what constitutes a "hostile environment"? How can I avoid said situation?
Trainer: That is defined by the victim.
eeven73: _________________ Is President Obama a Keynesian? |
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ohsix PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 6837
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Just teach your son to keep his consent forms next to the condoms. |
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eeven73 PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 5377 City: Halfway
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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No stuff. Guess its a good thing cameras are so prevelent. Filming will be advisable. _________________ Is President Obama a Keynesian? |
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goofyboy Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 4463 City: Houston
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 10:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to Napa in a few weeks with the wife. Does this apply to us? i know filming is not allowed, I've asked, so I guess I'll just keep stopping and asking. Women love it when they are close and you stop. _________________ Work SUX! |
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Tracktor Soul Rider
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 339 City: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Yes means Yes. |
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eeven73 wrote: | http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/29/california-leads-rape-culture-means-law.html
Quote: | An affirmative consent standard in the determination of whether consent was given by both parties to sexual activity. “Affirmative consent” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity. It is the responsibility of each person involved in the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the affirmative consent of the other or others to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent. Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent. |
specifically,
Quote: | Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. |
Glad I am not in the dating pool, but am scared for my son. So tragic that it has to come to this. How many yes's are enough.
Really reminds me of the Sexual Harrassment orientation they gave us back in the 90's at the start of freshman year.
Trainer: It is strictly forbidden to create a "hostile environment" violation will result in expulsion.
eeven73: Well, what constitutes a "hostile environment"? How can I avoid said situation?
Trainer: That is defined by the victim.
eeven73: |
We have had that training at work also. My question was doesn't having an ambiguous definition create a hostile work environment in and of itself?........ |
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goofyboy Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 4463 City: Houston
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 11:56 am Post subject: |
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you're on record with HR now. _________________ Work SUX! |
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Tracktor Soul Rider
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 339 City: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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goofyboy wrote: | you're on record with HR now. |
Which creates a hostile work environment! I am filing a complaint with HR...... |
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nmballa Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 3906 City: Milwaukee
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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So as long as she is screaming "yes, YES, YES". No problem...
In all seriousness, if a male always have a sex on your back. Would be a fair argument that she could have jumped off any time she felt like it. _________________ jt09 wrote:
I used to get all happy when the girlie would make a colonic appointment. That meant she was going to be breaking out the "fine china" soon.
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: Sep 29, 2014 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Serious question: In the eyes of the law, how can it be that if you are drunk and you consent, it doesn't count as consent because you aren't in a fully-conscious state of mind... but if you get drunk and drive a car, you are absolutely responsible for any actions you take?
"But officer, I was drunk! I blacked out at the party and next thing I know I woke up in my car wrapped around a telephone pole. I don't even remember it! Can I go home now?" |
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Okie Boarder Ladies Man
Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond
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Posted: Sep 30, 2014 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | In all seriousness, if a male always have a sex on your back. Would be a fair argument that she could have jumped off any time she felt like it. |
Hmmmmm, good thought. _________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? |
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Aubs Motorboat Queen
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9167
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Posted: Oct 10, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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nmballa - Ehh... I wouldn't say that's a fool proof plan. I'm sure a good lawyer would tear that claim apart.
This is such a slippery slope. Make them sign a consent form? Video tape the agreement? I dunno.. now I'm not sure even THAT would work because according to what was posted, at any point, consent can change. So then agreeing in the beginning, but saying 'no' halfway through, means stop immediately. |
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jason_ssr Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4054 City: Dallas, Tx
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Posted: Oct 13, 2014 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Aubs wrote: | Videotape the agreement |
Since the agreement is ongoing, I think we may have something here....
"Its for both of our protection!" _________________ TONA
My avatar is NOT a pic of me! HAHA! |
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vette74 Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 2144 City: Houston
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Posted: Oct 13, 2014 10:36 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Aubs"]nmballa - Ehh... I wouldn't say that's a fool proof plan. I'm sure a good lawyer would tear that claim apart.
This is such a slippery slope. Make them sign a consent form? Video tape the agreement? I dunno.. now I'm not sure even THAT would work because according to what was posted, at any point, consent can change. So then agreeing in the beginning, but saying 'no' halfway through, means stop immediately. [/quote
If someone says no half way through. You suck bad. Unless you are trying to go "there" then I hear No all the time. _________________ There'll be two dates on your tombstone/ And all your friends will read 'em/ But all that's gonna matter is that little dash between 'em... |
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eeven73 PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 5377 City: Halfway
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Posted: Oct 13, 2014 10:55 am Post subject: |
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^ you not only suck in bed, your gonna be sucking the D in prison. which is kinda crazy. _________________ Is President Obama a Keynesian? |
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Aubs Motorboat Queen
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Posted: Oct 23, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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LMAO vette74 |
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