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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all know for a fact.

That while there are outliers in every population, there is an direct correlation between a womans hotness and her maintenance needs.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And 'maintenance needs' is the very polite way of putting it.
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those who are genetically blessed know the world will tolerate character flaws from them so they allow them to occur.


What the FKUCK does that even mean?

wait, wait... so if you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife? So from your personal point of view, get an ugly girl to marry you?



I dont think I can explain it any more clearly, but since you need some help, I will try. I didnt say anything about ugly. For the guy who lives and breathes "grey area" you seem to imply beauty is black and white. It means those at the extreme end of the scale have more BS to deal with because the world will tolerate more BS from them than someone less blessed. Im the first to admit that I put up with ALOT in my youth simply because of the extreme hotness.

Those on the high end of the scale who have gotten by on their looks alone see the world as a very fickle place. They treat it as such. They know why they are treated the way they are any they know the true source of their good fortune when it comes to dating, occupation, opportunity, etc. As they age in a relationship, they become paranoid because their partner learns the real limit to their value, and that value is slipping as beauty fades. No matter how you feel about them over time, they feel like their only value to said partner is their appearance. As soon as he puts his foot down on anything and they see that their power over him has a limit, theyre on to the next sucker, who has yet to discover the limit to her value.

All that to say that the character of a woman should be the highest priority. We all become less attractive as we age. However, a parnter who has carried themselves with integrity through lifes ups and downs will always be attractive to you. If you tolerate the BS that comes with a hot chick of poor character and marry her, over time the hotness goes away but the BS stays/grows.

Disclaimer for CB: this is just my personal experience with more than my fair share of relationships. I have not dated every woman on the planet so Im sure there are exceptions and Im sure you happen to know one. I do not have any studies to back up my findings.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the guy who lives and breathes "grey area" you seem to imply


Laughing

double disclaimer FTW

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont think I can explain it any more clearly, but since you need some help, I will try.


Actually, I understood it. Despite the vague and flowery, mawkish prose, I got it. It was just such a silly statement that I was not sure, and was hoping I was NOT understanding it.

I think you watch too many romantic comedies or something....

Does your sweeping generality about good looking people also extend to wealthy people?

I guess the advice would be to try to avoid good looking women who come from well-to-do families, because they probably have poor character.

Well, the good news is that ugly girls from poor families are WAY easier to romance.


I'm partly messing with you, but only because you chose to go down a path that is not really defensible and based on nothing but a limited amount of personal experience. It should also offend the good looking people on this forum who come from comfortable backgrounds.

JT and Aubs, I'm talking about you two!

HAHAHAHAHA

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It should also offend the good looking people on this forum who come from comfortable backgrounds.



Here is your problem in a nutshell.

P.O.O.P.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neognosis wrote:


I'm partly messing with you, but only because you chose to go down a path that is not really defensible and based on nothing but a limited amount of personal experience.


Which is why I stated as much in the disclaimer. I was hoping it would keep you from feeling obligated to discredit my observation based on the "relatively" small sampling. Its strictly coincidence that others who have dated high on the scale share this understanding\observation. If you havent noticed it, then maybe you have not strayed that far above your demographic, or youre just arguing for argument sake.

Im not sure how wealth plays into this topic.

While your professed attraction to JT seems like a meatball being thrown down the center of the plate, I will not be taking it yard at this time. I do however reserve the right to revisit this pitch at a later date.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its strictly coincidence that others who have dated high on the scale share this understanding\observation. If you havent noticed it, then maybe you have not strayed that far above your demographic, or youre just arguing for argument sake.



HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


Dude, your whole premise that good looking women are usually lacking in character is just completely fugging silly. RIDICULOUS.

RIDICULOUS

Is it men too? Are good looking men lacking in character as well?


Absurd... HAHAHAHA!!!

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeven73 wrote:
We all know for a fact.

That while there are outliers in every population, there is an direct correlation between a womans hotness and her maintenance needs.


Here, he said it much less wordy than me. Debate him about it.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maintenance needs and character are two very different things. I dont think there are a disproportionate number of hot chics with good or bad character. I would agree that maintenance needs probably have a correlation though.
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jason_ssr wrote:
eeven73 wrote:
We all know for a fact.

That while there are outliers in every population, there is an direct correlation between a womans hotness and her maintenance needs.


Here, he said it much less wordy than me. Debate him about it.


I will not be engaging in debate with Mr. PC.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here, he said it much less wordy than me. Debate him about it.

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Maintenance needs and character are two very different things. I dont think there are a disproportionate number of hot chics with good or bad character.


MR PC? HAHAHAHA!

Holy siht man, HAHAHAHAH!!! Right, anyone who takes exception to a SILLY sweeping generalization is being PC..

OH MAN, the hits just keep coming... HAHAHAHA


Maybe I'll email the Good Looking Woman Association of america and tell them that you were slandering them..

"PC"... HAHAHAHA!!!

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jgriffith wrote:
Maintenance needs and character are two very different things. I dont think there are a disproportionate number of hot chics with good or bad character. I would agree that maintenance needs probably have a correlation though.


Yeah, my initial intent was not to blend the two. it was more to say there is more BS, and then later stress the importance of character. However, some of the BS examples in my head were character related and is kinda got mixed together.

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good people are more likely to have less character than ugly people? Good f'ing lord....


Freudian slip?

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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with jasonssr that character of a person HAS to be the #1 requirement. Obviously, you have to be attracted to that person, have good sex, have similar values, and have similar goals. There can't be a strong relationship with a person without some level of physical attraction.
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb, I may be misreading or misquoting, but I don't think he is referring to attractive women. I think he is referring to the top of the food chain women. There is a difference and I would somewhat agree with his statement.
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: What kind of woman would you rather marry? Reply with quote

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1.) A woman who went to college for four years, earned a worthless degree and banged a dozen frat guys, is saddled with debt.



Well my fiance was a virgin, so I guess I got lucky there. She is in her last year of college getting her 4 year degree with a masters following it. Hopefully it's not worthless. And she is in no debt since she has a wealthy daddy who is paying for college Mr. Green and she will get her masters free doing a graduate assistant program coaching the cheerleading squad. (She's the head cheerleader now)

Oh yea, she's smoking hot, so I guess I just lucked up. Cool
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone want to take the under on 5 years for the over^^^ I got the under.
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoking hot... head cheerleader.... wealthy daddy paying for college... on paper it's a recipe for disaster Laughing But I wish you the best of luck Cool
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2012 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well my fiance was a virgin




why was she a virgin?

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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2012 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think it was possible to get more ridiculous than an abortion debate. I stand corrected.


Edit: I can't spell. Laughing


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Iv'e scene some fairly rediculous spelling/grammer debates.
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Iv'e scene some fairly rediculous spelling/grammer debates.


I see what you did their...
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their pulling your leg! But don't let it effect you. Your in control of you're emotions. And you could of just closed the thread.
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeven73 wrote:
anyone want to take the under on 5 years for the over^^^ I got the under.


I take that on 5 minutes once she reads this thread.
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got married not long after high school to the girl I dated in high school. She has a couple of years of college and has rotated between working and being the shuttle service for our kids. I don't care what she does as long as she is happy, because that tends to pay dividends. She currently works part time at a company we own and is moving towards unhappy, so I'm sure she'll be back to nonworking before long. I refuse to call it stay at home mom because the kids go to school, she doesn't cook much, doesn't clean much, etc but does shuttle them to all after school activities.
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Swass wrote:
I didn't think it was possible to get more ridiculous than an abortion debate. I stand corrected.


You should never underestimate the desire of men to control female sexuality.
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3.) A beautiful, college educated, intelligent girl who is not entitled and has a similar outlook on life as me and shares some interests. Happy to work and support our family equally until kids. Becomes a stay at home mom until the kids start Kindergarten, the goes back to work. Retires at the same time as me. Doesn't sound like rocket science.

And for the debate-I DEFINITELY feel like the upper echelon of hot girls tend to be extremely entitled and expect the world on a silver platter. There are always exceptions but I'd put the r^2 at like .90. Laughing Hopefully I can find an outlier. The best girls are the ones that don't know they're hot.
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PostPosted: Dec 01, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neognosis wrote:
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Well my fiance was a virgin




why was she a virgin?


Not all girls are sluts.....most of them are, but there are a few good girls still out there Laughing
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So, she was a virgin because she was not "a slut?"

How old was she when you, uh, you know.

You don't have to answer. I married a virgin, and that turned out to have maybe not been all it was cracked up to be.

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Worked out and still works out quite well in my case. I think it depends on the reasoning behind her being a virgin. Was she a prude, bible thumper, ugly, or was it timing more than anything?
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Or does she have no sex drive and will make you feel bad about it for the next 10 years until you finally crack and get your closest female friend pregnant?

Not that I speak from experience or anything....

LOL

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Ha, left that one out. No experience with that one though.
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brew, Not really sure why she was still a virgin. Definitely not a bible thumper (doesn't really go to church.) Not a prude at all. No she's not ugly Laughing

I guess it was just timing. She had been in a few previous relationships, only one serious one. That relationship she tells me actually turned abusive because she would not give it up to him. From what she told me the guy was extremely abusive to her. I'm not going to get into all the things he did, but he went as extreme as to holding a knife to her throat.

I think that probably has something to do with her remaining a virgin till we started dating. I figure trust issues and fear come into play after being such an abusive relationship.

Neognosis, Her sex drive is absolutely not a problem. I do all I can just to keep up with her. She is definitely trying to make up for lost time. Laughing Laughing
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