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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: 450 billion to Egypt Reply with quote

WTF is wrong with the government, when are we going to stop borrowing money to give away to other nations!
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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will not buy or use anything made in egypt, turkey, or any other country that treats women and dissidents the way these countries do, and while I'm sure it is a very complex issue, I would prefer that we didn't support them at all, unless in a time of natural disaster.
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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who do you buy your gas, shoes, computer stuff (anything that uses oil based products) from?
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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is an alternative, or I don't really need the product, I don't buy anything made in Egypt or Turkey, or a number of other countries who's philosophies I consider barbaric.

I've not seen, nor do I own, any shoes made in egypt, nor any computer stuff made in egypt.

I recently discarded some razor blades I have that are made in Egypt and won't buy anymore of that brand, and I also have passed on a few shotguns that were much more affordable than my italian made gun, but were made in turkey because they are made in turkey.

Everyone has to make their own decisions, but I don't like supporting cultures I consider oppressive if I can avoid it.

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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Land of the free...

Whoever told you that is your enemy.

Rage against the machine.

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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goofyboy wrote:
Who do you buy your gas, shoes, computer stuff (anything that uses oil based products) from?


Um?

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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nor-Car: what's the chart about? I assume sources of oil?
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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arof wrote:
Nor*Cal: what's the chart about? I assume sources of oil?


Sources of US oil, of note 5.1% of oil comes from non-Nigerian, African nations, that includes Egypt. So arguments regarding this as an oil supply issue are ostensibly invalid unless other evidence is brought forth.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudi has some pretty barbaric practices when it comes to women. I was more thinking about them than egypt or Turkey.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That chart is a double whammy for CB.

He hates America as well.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man! How did you know! I have to get better at hiding how much I hate America, you folks is bekumming too ed-you-muh-cated now. Y'all can sniff out the america-haters like a blue tick hound dog sniffin' after ol' mr. ringtail!
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's racist.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just gave $450 billion to Egypt. That money could have been kept here and we could keep our current tax rates. This could be coming to all of us soon. If the tax hike goes through, the government will make $536 billion... $450 of which just went to Egypt. buncha a$$holes in congress.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/01/pf/taxes/fiscal-cliff-tax/index.html?iid=Lead&hpt=hp_t3

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goofyboy, just disgusting, I dont understand how anyone could think this is ok?
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully, congress will act and keep current tax rates the same. However, that $536 billion is a lot of money to ALLOW us to keep to ourselves.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about we get the f out of the middle east entirely, let them kill each other and let Israel do whatever they do, what happens happens, and we take the BILLIONS we spend on campaigns and other such wast of money and precious life and apply all that money and effort to our own economy and infrastructure and alternative energy, or a synthetic gasoline at the very least....

Crazy, right?

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hopefully, congress will act and keep current tax rates the same. However, that $536 billion is a lot of money to ALLOW us to keep to ourselves.


Probably one of the worst things to happen to people in the last 20 years is automatic deposit of payroll checks. No one pays attention to what is withheld, only to the amount hitting there savings/checking account. Then to top it all off most people look at a tax refund as a GIFT from the government. I want to scream, IT IS YOUR MONEY IDIOT.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have your B's and M's confused, it's $450M

Egypt and Israel have been the top recipients of aid for decades now, both being one of the top consumers of our military technology. This has long been a strategic play for the US government. Keep the peace between Egypt and Israel, have a consumer of our military technology (even if we fund it ourselves), and most importantly keep the Suez Canal open at all costs.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeven73, I thought you liked giving interest free loans to the Govt? Confused

Good news! You can do it now by buying short term treasuries in addition to the excess amount you have withheld from your paycheck! W00T!

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jryoung, I think you are right. The articles I saw a few days ago said 450 billion was part of 1 trillion total promised by Obama. But now all I see is 450 million, part of 1 billion total package.

Either way we shouldnt be giving away money with our crazy debt and annual deficits.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-increased-foreign-aid-80-spent-76-more-foreign-aid-border-security
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know much about this topic, but that CNS website looks fishy to me right away.
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