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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: This happened a few blocks from my house. Reply with quote

I was out at the cable park while this was happening, just heard about it last night.

Short version: A house caught fire but when the officials looked closer at it they found two people inside who had been murdered and it turns out that the place was torched to cover it up. One of their trucks was stolen, ditched across town and burned as well behind a CVS. Hopefully some security cams or something caught it. Kinda freaky. Been thinking about buying a gun, this just makes me want to sooner for some peace of mind.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1254285.ece

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ST. PETERSBURG It wasn't unusual for neighbors to see workers at the brown house.

The owner took pride in the 1930 home at 2635 Fourth Ave. N, purchased two years ago. Men came to work on the lawn. There was a kitchen remodel a few weeks ago, neighbors said.

Workers Bruce Johnson, 51, and Arthur Regula, 36, were at the home, in the Historic Kenwood neighborhood, when a fire broke out on Sunday afternoon.

Firefighters found their bodies inside, and authorities quickly determined the men died from "homicidal violence." They called the identifications "tentative," because the fire caused extensive damage to the bodies. The Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner's Office is still investigating.

Authorities have not named any suspects, but on Monday afternoon announced they may have found a clue.

Regula's black Ford pickup was discovered at about noon Monday behind a CVS Pharmacy at Columbus Drive and Macdill Avenue in Tampa. It too was torched.

"To the best of my knowledge, it was abandoned," St. Petersburg Police spokesman Mike Puetz said. "Who drove off in it is obviously something we'd like to know."

Family members of Johnson and Regula couldn't be reached for comment Monday. The homeowner, listed in public records as Mitchell T. Harrison, also couldn't be reached. Authorities said he was not home at the time of the fire. He arrived Sunday afternoon to see his house burning.

Police said Johnson was a friend of the owner and had been staying at the home. Regula, who lived in Hudson, was a tile tradesman, police said.

Meanwhile, residents in the trendy neighborhood known for its porch parties wondered what happened.

"It's so shocking," said Laura Bechtel, who lives three doors down. "I'm just bothered that there's somebody out there, not in custody."

Firefighters got the first call at 1:21 p.m. Sunday, after some children playing in a back yard including Bechtel's 8-year-old daughter spotted smoke.

Robert Bechtel said his teenage daughter said she smelled lighter fluid.

Investigators have not said how the two men were killed or what started the blaze.

But Lt. Joel Granata, spokesman for St. Petersburg Fire and Rescue, said it was an unusual fire scene.

"We felt that it had a lot of oddities," Granata said. "When you have two victims that were apparently able-bodied and it was the middle of the day ... they should have been able to get out. Why weren't they able to get out?"

As the afternoon wore on, investigators brought in an arson dog to sniff for accelerants, Granata said.

"I can't tell you whether one was found at this point," he said.

Anyone with information about the incident was asked to call the St. Petersburg Police Department at (727) 893-7780.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to follow this and find out who killed these people.

Usually they know their killers, or know why they are being targeted.

Most violence of this level is not just random. I know that is not much consolation, but it should make you feel a LITTLE bit more secure.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: This happened a few blocks from my house. Reply with quote

GnarShredd wrote:
Been thinking about buying a gun


World's full of weirdos who commit these kinds of crimes. Nobody ever thinks it could happen to them. Protect yourself.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face palm....


that being done, I do have a shotgun in the house.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missed the "Face Palm..." reference above and how it ties to your shotgun, please explain?
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB, you ok? Seems like you have been posting a lot of irrelevant posts lately.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neognosis wrote:
I would like to follow this and find out who killed these people.

Usually they know their killers, or know why they are being targeted.

Most violence of this level is not just random. I know that is not much consolation, but it should make you feel a LITTLE bit more secure.



That's mostly how I feel. Just weird to have something like this happen at a house I literally go by every day when I go running. I'm really interested to see how this turns out, I'll post updates once I see them.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Missed the "Face Palm..." reference above and how it ties to your shotgun, please explain?



The "face palm" was in response to JasonSSRs "the sky is falling and there's someone around every corner who is going to try to kill you, so you need to be strapped" comment.

I'm overstating his argument for effect, of course.

However, I do have some guns in the house and I simply love guns. It's easy to allow yourself to believe that the world is more dangerous than it is to justify a love of guns.

I love them and have them, but I don't think that there is any realistic chance that something like what happened to the people in the OP is going to happen to me.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm overstating his argument for effect, of course.


Clearly. Rolling Eyes

Projection much?

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neognosis wrote:


The "face palm" was in response to JasonSSRs "the sky is falling and there's someone around every corner who is going to try to kill you, so you need to be strapped" comment.

I'm overstating his argument for effect, of course.

However, I do have some guns in the house and I simply love guns. It's easy to allow yourself to believe that the world is more dangerous than it is to justify a love of guns.

I love them and have them, but I don't think that there is any realistic chance that something like what happened to the people in the OP is going to happen to me.


Not at all what I said or implied. Pretty stupid post even by your standards. Not even gonna bother explaining it.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, i know that feel. Reading the news the other day and find out one of my customers/vendor was murdered in a mass shooting. You always hear about it but never really connect with it. Weird.

http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/172077931.html?refer=y

Kind of throws a wrench in some of my plans for my company as i did need to begin discussing a new OEM contract with the owner, who is now dead.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old secretary just killed her fiance over a dice game.
http://www2.wspa.com/news/2012/sep/27/4/cops-woman-kills-fiance-butcher-knife-ar-4637078/
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PostPosted: Oct 03, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this your neighbor?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/10/02/fire-kills-1-badly-burns-another-in-extreme-hoarding-intervention-gone-awry/
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