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brad504 Newbie

Joined: 10 Sep 2010 Posts: 13
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Posted: May 21, 2012 6:40 am Post subject: how to avoid concussions |
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I am a beginner rider and finally got back out on the water last week with some friends and started attempting some jumps off the wake (first time). After a faceplant I had a pretty bad headache, and didnt want to risk making it any worse so I pretty much stopped attempting jumping the wake. Not sure if the headache was a result of a concussion or not but that leads me to my question.
Is there something I can do to avoid wrecking my head? I cant really control how I'm going to fall during these jump attempts. Is this something I'm just going to have to gut through until I get it down, or should i consider wearing a helmet or slowing the speed down (I normally do 20-30 mph)
Also, a question for you experienced riders out there--When you take a hard fall, resulting in a bad headache, do you keep on riding through the pain or do you take a break and wait until your head is right again? |
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msimpson Soul Rider

Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 338 City: Jamestown, Ohio Shawnee Lake
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Posted: May 21, 2012 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Everyone that I have even ridden with in the past 16 years goes through the "tight neck" phase when learing to jump. Keep riding and repition will eventually win and those type of falls will become less and less and less. Listen to your body when it comes to stoping or not. _________________ www.slobgear.com
Don't let yourself get old, and say "I wish I would have...." |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

Joined: 03 Dec 2010 Posts: 526
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Posted: May 21, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've had plenty of minor concussions in my short career, and I eventually started wearing a helmet. Not one since then.
There's been an ongoing debate in the wakeboarding community for years about whether helmets hurt or help. Some people will tell you that the added surface area makes the falls worse, but in my experience, this isn't true at all. Take a hard edge with a helmet on and you'll understand.
As for the speed, 30 mph is way too fast. The ideal speed depends on the boat and the rope length, but in general, 19-21 is good for beginners, 22-25 is good for experienced riders (most pros ride around 24-25), and 26-27 is for the long-rope daredevils like Randall Harris who want to go huge and are willing to take some monster hits. Anything over 27 will flatten out the wake too much and is also a lot more dangerous.
Finally, take it easy! I'm always eager to bounce back from hard falls, but if I take a hit to my head, I usually take a break. You're probably going to be riding for a long time, and you don't want to use up too much of your concussion budget right away. Concussions are no joke. They can add up very quickly and do long term damage. So don't try to be a hardass! _________________ rally to the wake |
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hrwake Newbie

Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 46
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Posted: May 21, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Ive spent a few days attempting to barefoot, which results in some really gnarly face smackers, and the best advice i got was to tuck my chin to my chest before hitting the water. It takes a little bit of time before this becomes instinctive, but from my experiences it reduces the headache pain and neck pain because your head doesn't snap back when it hits the water. Or you could give the helmet a shot. and either way, i would definitely agree that you should give it a break if your head really hurts, no sense in making it worse and making yourself more scared to attempt the trick again |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: May 21, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| hrwake wrote: | | Ive spent a few days attempting to barefoot, which results in some really gnarly face smackers, and the best advice i got was to tuck my chin to my chest before hitting the water. It takes a little bit of time before this becomes instinctive, but from my experiences it reduces the headache pain and neck pain because your head doesn't snap back when it hits the water. |
^^this. My dad always said the same thing while barefooting or even riding dirtbikes... just roll into the fall.
Learning how to fall is an art that people don't realize needs to be learned, and early on at that. When you know for a fact that you're about to fall, you have to prepare for it and put yourself in a position to fall. If you think you're going to fall, you will fall. Be confident in yourself but when you know something is about to go wrong, do the wrong thing correctly... make sense?
As a beginner, it's difficult to know when you're going to fall or when things go wrong. The top cues are being off balance in the air or on the water, casing the wake and going forward, or the board sliding out to result in a toe/back edge.
As far as my falls go, I pretty much know that they are going to happen and how they're about to happen. If I know it early on, I keep doing the trick (with handle still in hand) until I'm at a spot that I know I'm going to fall easily. If I find out late, I keep doing it. In some cases, a trick is better to just bail early, let go, and put your body into a good position to impact the water, ie. diving in if I don't have much rotation, or curling up into a little ball and going butt first, or "hug" myself and go in on my side while diving my head to the water (basically as mentioned, tucking your chin).
Diggers do come, meaning a toe edge or back edge catch. These are inevitable, especially while learning to wakeboard as body position comes over time and knowing your exact movement at any given time doesn't come quickly on a wakeboard. Toe diggers aren't too bad because if the board is coming around frontside and it's flat, you know instantly you're going down. In this case, roll into it and you won't hurt at all. I snapped a board after carving out on the turnaround as fast as I could, doing a tail press, and catching a fin. It happened so fast but I knew something didn't feel right and I rolled into it. Everyone thought I just died, but it was one of the easiest falls I've ever encountered because I "fell correctly" and in this case, perfectly seeing that the board snapped . A heel digger, well, you're just along for the ride and it's gonna hurt If it's a minor headache, keep riding and have some fun. If it's throbbing, take a break.
As far as helmets go, just don't do it. If you're worried about the board hitting your head, it's entirely your decision, but you can also tighten up your strappers if you're worried at all! If it's to prevent concussion, it's not going to help at all. Your head will hit the water at the same velocity and experience the same amount of G-forces as without a helmet and you're brains going to rattle around the same amount. A concussion is your brain hitting your skull due to these forces... the helmet just makes the outside feel better (kinda).
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask! |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
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Posted: May 22, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| holdsworth wrote: | | Learning how to fall is an art that people don't realize needs to be learned, and early on at that. |
I second this notion, very true. With almost any pysical activity this is key. I've saved myself many a sprained/broken wrist while skateboarding from just rolling with the fall instead of trying to stop myself. Looks a little more dramatic sometimes, but worth it. |
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brad504 Newbie

Joined: 10 Sep 2010 Posts: 13
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Posted: May 22, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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My headaches came specifically from catching the toeside of the board.
I did a jump and was leaning forward on the landing, causing the toeside to dip down and catch the water--I immidiately knew I was going to faceplant fast, i did and got a huge headache (dunno if that means a minor concussion or not).
So in the scenario--I should try to tuck my chin in, roll my torso forward as I'm face planting (before hitting the water)>? |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: May 23, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| Yup... just want to roll right into it. |
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jboneill Newbie

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 45 City: Austin
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Posted: May 25, 2012 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| its going to happen no matter what... the best thing i could say to do is wear a cga approved vest. i feel that you get concussions just as easily with or without a helmet. |
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SMLWinds Newbie

Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 6
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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'll throw in my 2 cents here...first of all, I think the faceplant and hard fall phase goes away for most people. I was a decent slalom skier and started learning to wakeboard, took a few jaw jolting falls, and almost quite. However, after that first week or so of learning, I haven't had a concussion producing fall since then. You learn how to fall, learn when to let go, etc.
With that said, I must also confess that I am a sport medicine surgeon and while I push the limits of competing with injury, getting back on the board when you have a headache from a fall is very ill advised. Your brain doesn't heal very well from repeated beatings so I urge you to take a break and let yourself heal if you think you have a concussion. The brain becomes much more vulnerable to severe injury if you have a concussion already. |
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