FNG needing a few questions answered

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

Well, been on for a day or so and figured now would be as good a time as any to ask some newbie questions. I'm in the market for a boat, and I've narrowed it down to a good new or used wakeboard boat. Now this may sound stupid, but I've never actually been on a wakeboard. All of my employees are avid wakeboarder's and my kids are begging to learn, so I figured it's the best choice. Through all my research, I think I've narrowed it down to either an Axis A22 or a Centurion SV230. I am planning on paying cash for the boat, and only want to do it once, so I guess this is why I'm asking. This boat is not going to be a full time wakeboard boat, about 1/2 of its time is going to be just spending time with the wife and kids on the lake relaxing, so ride is semi important. It's also going to be cold here until June, so no test rides anytime soon, but I would like to know what you think has the best overall value, quality, wake and ride. If you have a better idea, I'll take any advice you can give me. Thanks for any help, and sorry for the newbie questions, I just want to do it right.

Chad

fish6942 · Addict Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 603

Give SERIOUS consideration to how you feel about the dealer. As with any boat, there is little doubt that you will be coming back for some warranty or service work.

STANG KILLA SS · Posted: Feb 22, 2011 7:52 am Post subject:

just an FYI the a22 has less floor space than my 20'6 LSV. (i actually measured both) maybe something to consider.

Chattwake · Posted: Feb 22, 2011 8:03 am Post subject:

STANG KILLA SS, This is simply not true. Where are you getting this from? Did you consider the space in the bow and the seating space in the rear or are you simply measure the area where the carpet is? The A22 has a 100 inch beam. What was the beam on the LSV? Wasn't it 95 inches? How about the length? 20'6 vs. 22. Come on now. Also, the OP never said anything about Moomba.

The A22 is a great boat and has tons of room. It feels almost as big as the SANTE 230's that I have owned over the past three years. I've owned Nautiques, Mastercrafts, and a Malibu. I think the A22 is very well built boat that will perform as well as any other boat on the market that costs twice as much. I wish I knew more about the Centurion line to give you a comparison, but I have never ridden behind a SV230. I'm sure it's a nice boat though. I've ridden behind an A22 many times, and it produces one of the best wakes in the industry right now.

I second the comment about considering your local dealer network and who you will have to deal with when or if you have a warranty issue. If you have any specific quesitons about the A22, please let me know. I'll be happy to chat with you or put you in touch with some of my friends that work for Axis. My 2011 A22 should be done and have all of the aftermarket stereo stuff done soon and I'll be posting up some pics on here later.

elc_ed · Newbie Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 6 City: anaheim hills

Oh man - the 20'6 lsv isn't even close to the A22 as far as space maybe the A20 - Our friends have a 20'6 LSV and we ride in it frequently, its a great boat but cramped compared to the A22. We also have a good friend with a 07 XLV, when parked next to him the A22 is comparable.

I have owned a centurion and it was a great boat for the family I was happy with the boat but not happy with the wake board wake (I did not have a SV230). When we went to purchase a new boat a couple the boats we looked at were the avalanche and SV230, both really nice boats. We demoed the avalanche, then drove the A22. The A22 space, handling and wake board wake are hard to beat for the price, the wake cleans up easily at 15 or 16 mph and can get huge if you want it to (without washing out). It rides well in chop and handles great when weighted. If you are really into surfing I would probably take a harder look at centurion. The Malibu dealer close to us are great guys... their post sales support is as good as their pre sales this made the purchase a no brainer.

jjaszkow · Posted: Feb 22, 2011 11:16 am Post subject:

Like Ed and Chattwake, my family and I have been thrilled with our A22. Our situation sounds similar to yours, where a lot of the use has not been wakeboarding. Plenty of room, and has been great to us so far.

I too am surprised that the LSV would be mentioned as being roomier than the A22. Other than looking at one in the showroom and deciding it was too small, I haven't spent much time around the LSV. I have however spent time in and around an '09 XLV GG, and the A22 is about as roomy.

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

jjaszkow · Posted: Feb 22, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject:

Alli_Gator, we have moderate boat traffic chop on our lake most days. I think that the worst that I have been in is 1.5-2 foot swells and high winds and it handled it just fine. Without ballast you can definately feel it, so I've taken to filling the ballast a bit if I am out in rough water. Most wakeboard specific boats seem to ride a bit (and sometimes much more than a bit) rough in chop. It's definately smoother than some of the others that I've been in.

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

JordanC · Newbie Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 3 City: Southlake

We went to the Dallas boat show a few weeks back looking for a new boat. We've had a Mastercraft for about 7 years so it was time to upgrade. We compared the Moomba, Malibu, Mastercraft and Axis. The Axis at the show won us over. This past weekend we test drove and loved everything about it. Simple to operate and the wake is awesome . Interior on the water felt really big like a 23ft. We ended up buying an all black 22 that the local dealer had in stock (Waterski America these guys are great).Chattwake I don't know you but your posts have been a great help..... Thanks

Chattwake · Posted: Feb 23, 2011 3:57 am Post subject:

JordanC, thanks bro! Does you boat have graphics on it? Seems like I've looked at that one on line before. If you need anything for that boat, or have any questions about sacs, stereo stuff, trailer stuff, etc., lmk. I'd love to see some pics of your rig.

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

Anyone know what a decently set up 2011 A22 Vandall is selling for? I like this one http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2011-Axis-A22-Vandall-97978908

Chattwake · Posted: Feb 25, 2011 5:10 am Post subject:

That one with the standard motor should be mid 50's. It really depends on the dealer. I've seen some sell for 53-60k.

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

Thanks Chattwake! Thats the info I needed.

Chattwake · Posted: Feb 25, 2011 8:17 am Post subject:

Also, every boat is different, and it depends on the small options that are added or deleted (like a heater, etc.). Those also drive up the price of the boat quick. I did not take a detailed look at the options on that boat.

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

elc_ed · Newbie Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 6 City: anaheim hills

Wow, congrats. Great looking Axis! Not sure if you have seen or joined this forum http://axiswakeboats.com/

jjaszkow · Posted: Feb 25, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject:

Congrats! That's one sharp looking boat.

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

Thanks guys, I'm really excited about it. I'll take a look at the Axis Forum elc_ed, thanks for the heads up.

Chattwake · Posted: Feb 25, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject:

Hahaha helz yeah!!!!

JordanC · Newbie Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 3 City: Southlake

Axis nation is getting bigger!!!!!!!!!!

JordanC · Newbie Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 3 City: Southlake

Axis nation is getting bigger!!!!!!!!!!

Alli_Gator · Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 46 City: Post Falls

Now all I need is summer to come quicker... I'm already thinking about taking a road trip somewhere warmer to try it out.

swift6six · Criminal Joined: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 74 City: Boise

Congrats bro, that's a very good looking boat. Let me know if you're heading south, I'm tired of the snow too.

m_lesney · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin

Good Lookin boat! Gonna burn on that gelcoat though. But style is priceless!