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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The boat sits at a pretty hard angle while loaded up. Made me nervous at first but I was assured it couldnt go over.


This has to be the single most common reason why some people just can't handle sailing. You've got to get over that pit in your stomach when the boat lists hard. Freaks some people out.

When/if my bud gets back from his assignment, we've talked about going in on another boat together. If we did it we'd like to get a simple sloop with an in-mast furler so that reefing is as easy as possible. The wind can be pretty nutty out on the bay, and easy-to-deal-with reefing is a must if you want everyone (read:wives) on the boat to be happy.

Anyhow, my bud took a USCG class on sailing and learned a ton. Might not be a bad idea Jason. I think he got a certificate of completion at the end which would probably help with the renting thing.

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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea on the official course. There is alot of physics involved to in keeping air on both sides if the sail. Watching the lil tails and whatnot.

Yes, a sailing vaca in the VI would be epic in every aspect. Everything you do every day is an adventure. Whether you are kiting, exploring beaches, seeing attractions like the baths, fishing, and just navigating from place to place. The islands are all very close and you are always well in sight of land (and inside the reef for that matter). Moorings are already set up in almost every possible cove, so you dont even have to set anchor, really, just clip to a bouy. It's setup well for the rookie sailor.

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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The boat sits at a pretty hard angle while loaded up. Made me nervous at first but I was assured it couldnt go over.


This has to be the single most common reason why some people just can't handle sailing. You've got to get over that pit in your stomach when the boat lists hard. Freaks some people out.


This is where learning on a small boats was a trip. You capsize all the time. Nothing like pitchpoling a Hobie on a screaming reach while trapped out.

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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nor*Cal, I had a great conversation with the owner of the boat yesterday. He told me not to buy any gear and that I could borrow stuff from him until I decided if this is something I wanted I to do. We are getting together on Sunday and he is giving me some books to read and to formally meet one another. He basically said, he will teach me as much as I want to learn (which never ends of course). I guess some people want to go out and do whatever while others want to absorb everything.

They race every Wed and most weekends. He told me that his boat is pretty mellow as far as racing. Another words, he likes to win but having fun is just as important. Not the yelling screaming keep your mouth shut type of crew.

Btw, he was cracking up when I sent him the link to the bowsmanunion site your mentioned. He immediately passed it along to his crew and gained me some brownie points very quickly.

Have you seen this one?
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php


I feel like a found a very good group of people to learn and sail with. I am very fortunate. Hopefully, I won't muck it up too badly. Embarassed Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The boat sits at a pretty hard angle while loaded up. Made me nervous at first but I was assured it couldnt go over.


This has to be the single most common reason why some people just can't handle sailing. You've got to get over that pit in your stomach when the boat lists hard. Freaks some people out.


This is where learning on a small boats was a trip. You capsize all the time. Nothing like pitchpoling a Hobie on a screaming reach while trapped out.


Well imagine being on the water for the first time in 18kts manning the helm when I've never even seen anyone else do it. The more I take her into the wind, the more she lists. I just keep getting more aggressive with the angle and my jib is touching the water, and the other two aren't even concerned. I figure they would say something if it wasn't right. I was finally told we were not racing and come off the wind a bit to make it a more enjoyable experience. LOL! The trip back downwind was much more enjoyable a sail. You could actually have a conversation.

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This?
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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2011 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nor*Cal, my first experience sailing was on a tiny boat. Yeah, we went over. Getting it righted was an eye-opening experience.

Good thing it was summertime/warm water.

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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chavez, shouldn't be that hard, but I spent a lot of time "washing my sails," according to my Dad.
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Nor*Cal, no it wasn't hard at all, once you knew what to do! But when you are flopping around trying to figure it out... LOL
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PostPosted: Mar 21, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ummmmm.

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PostPosted: Mar 21, 2011 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us know how the meeting goes. You're just having all the fun these days.
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PostPosted: Mar 21, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nor*Cal, Hardly. Been a long hard winter around here. I have a serious case of cabin fever.

Been cooped up for months and need some vitamin D!

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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PLB's.

Met with the captain, he has an EPIRB and two PLB's. One in the ditch bag and one he carries in his pocket.

Seriously considering one of these.

These seem to be the most popular models I have found online. Any comments and or other suggestions?

http://www.acrelectronics.com/

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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FIFY!



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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PLB's.

Met with the captain, he has an EPIRB and two PLB's. One in the ditch bag and one he carries in his pocket.

Seriously considering one of these.

These seem to be the most popular models I have found online. Any comments and or other suggestions?

http://www.acrelectronics.com/


Does he feel the need for each of the crew to have these? I assume the races are supported and would think chase boats would be there for a rescue fairly quickly in the event of an emergency unlike when you're open-ocean cruising.

I've never even had the thought that one of those would be needed in a racing setting.

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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you go for the triple or double backflip? How tall is that thing? The camera lens distortion makes it hard to tell.
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PLB's.

Met with the captain, he has an EPIRB and two PLB's. One in the ditch bag and one he carries in his pocket.

Seriously considering one of these.

These seem to be the most popular models I have found online. Any comments and or other suggestions?

http://www.acrelectronics.com/


Does he feel the need for each of the crew to have these? I assume the races are supported and would think chase boats would be there for a rescue fairly quickly in the event of an emergency unlike when you're open-ocean cruising.

I've never even had the thought that one of those would be needed in a racing setting.


He did not mention that everyone should have one, but when the Captain has two, makes me think. There will be some sailing that is not racing. There are a few night races and Lake MI can be pretty effin gnarly. The one guy with us for lunch was surprised, he never heard of a PLB but was aware of the EPIRB.

I found this thing. Might be good for all other activities as well. Like off roading in the desert etc. Should be released soon for around $279 no service.

http://www.equipped.org/blog/?p=284

I also want this thing.

http://www.skygeek.com/rescue-laser-light.html


For a total of around 400 bucks, laser rescue flare and PLB. Might just be worth it. Water around here does not warm up until late July and even then it's still pretty cold. I want to be picked up as fast as possible if something happens.

Totally paranoid!

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Guess it would be good for backpacking and backcountry snowboarding also, why not?

I assume the captain has them as his responsibility is the crews safety.

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PostPosted: Mar 26, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until that new ACR comes out at around 270, I figured the rescue laser flare is a good investment for any outdoor endeavor. Scored the magnum for around 75 bucks.


School me on PFD's,

I am leaning towards this one right now, assuming that a harness is necessary.

http://www.mustangsurvival.com/products/product.php?id=507&mc=11

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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boats in the water, looks like rain and snow possible this weekend. WTF!!!!!!!!


Water temp still in the low/mid 30's. WTF!!!!!!!!!


This is just plain crazy........





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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8824, never used those types of PFDs so??? Looks like it would work though.

There's a class of boats called Moths that really developed the hydrofoil thing. It's amazing how fast these boats are getting.

In other news, rumors are a 9th challenger for the America's Cup will be announced today.

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PostPosted: Mar 30, 2011 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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8824, never used those types of PFDs so??? Looks like it would work though.

There's a class of boats called Moths that really developed the hydrofoil thing. It's amazing how fast these boats are getting.

In other news, rumors are a 9th challenger for the America's Cup will be announced today.


I found out that if I race the Mac a harness is required. Not sure about the other races. Have to earn my spot on the boat for that race.


Watched a few movies from Netflix, some of these world races are insane.

Have you seen the movie Deep Water?

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PostPosted: Apr 03, 2011 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

winds 10-20 knots,
waves 1-2ft
water temp 38 near shore
no icebergs,

I can't even post pics, I can not get the file sizes smaller than 615kb. Using Iphoto if anyone can help.


DO A Bubb Rubbing AUTO RESIZE PLEASE!

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How long did it take to defrost?
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How long did it take to defrost?


Surprisingly, I was not cold at all. The lake was relatively flat, barely any spray. I walked off completely dry head to toe. Working for the north face back in day, I was layered up perfectly. Will be real nice once the air and water warms up.


Pretty solid crew. One guy is flown around the country to race on boats, another guy is a sail maker, two other people had approximately 19 yrs sailing experience each plus the captain.

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PostPosted: Apr 14, 2011 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went out again yesterday afternoon. Started to trim sails, worked some winches, breaks etc etc.

One thing that I really like about this sailing thing, everyone is playing an active part in the process. Evening being rail meat helps keep the boat flat thus increasing speed.


Water temp is still in the mid 30's. Cold air coming off the water mixing with the warm air creates some nice conditions.

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How's flying a spinnaker on a J/105? It looks like it would be awesome.
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PostPosted: Apr 14, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How's flying a spinnaker on a J/105? It looks like it would be awesome.


No spinnaker yet for me.

I'm a J/120! Laughing Laughing

I am certain there is room for you anytime. Good group of guys.

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PostPosted: Apr 14, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My buddy is in the process of captaining over a brand new cat from South Africa. Think he is probably in the Caribbean by now. Very nice ship. Ground breaking hybrid technology.

http://www.tangexpeditions.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=64

I would suggest checking out the lake geneva yacht scene. Buddy Melgis builds his signature boats up in this neck of the woods. Took the America's Cup in 92'. World class sailor, considered one of the greats. A lot of avid sailor in these parts.


Get some pics of that boat, that thing looks amazing. I don't think I could do a cross ocean. In a boat at least. Respect.

Lake Geneva is a solid scene for sure. Some great boats on that lake, classic power and sail boats. Popeyes!

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How's flying a spinnaker on a J/105? It looks like it would be awesome.


No spinnaker yet for me.

I'm a J/120! Laughing Laughing

I am certain there is room for you anytime. Good group of guys.


Let me figure out my summer calendar and see if I can pop in for a race weekend to ride the rail.

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Damn,

winthrop harbor to wilmette harbor-
wilmette harbor to northerly island-
northerly island to calumet harbor - calumet harbor to gary-
401 am cdt fri apr 15 2011

... gale warning in effect through late tonight...

. today ... east winds to 30 kt increasing to gales to 40 kt.
widespread showers in the afternoon. waves 8 to 12 ft building to
10 to 14 ft.
. tonight ... east gales to 35 kt becoming southeast 15 to 25 kt.
rain in the evening ... then chance of rain after midnight. waves
subsiding to 8 to 12 ft.
. saturday ... south winds 20 to 25 kt becoming west in the
afternoon. rain likely. waves subsiding to 2 to 4 ft.
. saturday night ... west winds 15 to 25 kt diminishing to 10 to 20
kt. partly cloudy. waves 1 to 3 ft.

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Extreme 40 races this week. Several of the registered AC34 teams are racing but look at the carnage. Big cats blowing up, these are not your Hobie 16.




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PostPosted: May 23, 2011 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well,

3 out of the first 4 races have been cancelled due to weather.


what a fuc king great season so far.


the one race we were in, we blew out our genoa while in the lead. granted the race had just started before we had to withdraw.

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Still plenty of summer left...
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Still plenty of summer left...


Chicago YC cancelled a race this weekend as well. No frickin boats in the water.

Captain told me yesterday that he appreciated the fact that I still have faith and have been out in just crap conditions all season. I can't wait to sail in shorts and a t-shirt. Warm air and water too!


Been a really weird weather season so far.

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