rope length??

[ultra82]

Does rope length sometimes have a factor in the amount of air time you have? And I guess that would also beg to ask, does it in height as well?

[holdsworth]

Yes, but depends on the boat. For my, 80 feet behind my X-Star is prime, but 75 behind my friend's Axis so far has been best. If a boat can produce a big wake at a faster speed, a longer rope length will be better, but it it really flattens out going faster and further back, stay short.

[hawkster0001]

i/os are usually shorter, i ride 75 behind my friends x1, and at the smae speed i ride 55-60 behind my i/o

[DRAGON88]

[Chocoholic]

Yes it does, but I wouldn't necessarily say it depends on the boat and wake, having a bigger wake certainly makes it easier to get airtime, but if you've got good technique you should be able to pull the same riding behind any boat.

I ride at 65 behind a moomba, X2 and a tige - no issues with any of them.

Sometimes I'll whack the rope out to 70 - 75 for practice purposes as it gives you extra set up time.

[ultra82]

Ok well the reason I ask is I ride behind a 00 or 01 tige 2100v, its a descent wake but doesnt seem really rampy till about 70-75 which is farther than the rope goes (65') and the only reason I am thinking it gets more rampy is because it looks more like this ) instead of like this /. I know I need more time on the wake in general as this is my first summer on a board. I try and learn as much as possible as far as edging through the wake but as hard as I edge into the wake I figured I would be getting way more air than I am.

[hawkster0001]

you should move the rope around and see what makes you feel the most comfortable, you dont want it too short that its basically nothing of a wake too clear, but dont want it too long that its in hte wash, or too wide of a wake and just not having the experience to get the speed and technique and just being out of control, i have that problem evry time i try to jump toeside

[holdsworth]

Chocoholic, boat and wake matter a lot. Some flatten out far back but have a killer wake up toward the boat a little more, and vice -versa, and also wake width plays a huge role in it as well. Mastercraft wakes are pretty wide while Supra is very narrow.

[ultra82]

I've been trying to get my friend to put sacs in his boat but he insists it won't do anything for the wake. However I tend to disagree, I think it will help push the wake away from the boat allowing me more rope. I can't go more than 60ft behind his boat one because it gets to washy and he thinks the taps system at slalom ski is better lol. He always tells me to try and work techniques which I do but its hard when your trying everything to get more air, like reading, watching vids, and asking questions all the time. One of these days before it gets too cold here I'm supposed to get behind a sac'd tige rz4...then maybe I will see progression in my air after playing with rope lengths haha...and here is a little video I was super tired by now, think I had been riding most of the day and this wipeout was my last of this 45 minute ride.

[ultra82]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxIsa6MTFt4

[holdsworth]

ultra82, your friend is ridiculous . More weight in the boat makes the boat displace more water (from sitting down lower, the volume the boat takes up increases) and makes the wake much bigger. No matter what boat, it will make the wake bigger but does not necessarily mean the wake will be nicer. Could wash out, could even not let the boat plane out if you do it wrong.

Best way to weight a V-drive is to put 2 sacs in the rear storage lockers and in the walkway of the bow. For my X-Star, it's 2-440lb bags in the storage lockers and 1-540lb bag in the bow and it is gorgeous. Pro series runs 2-750lb in the back, 2-500lb under the seats up front. In the Axis, we run 2-750 in the back, 1-750l in the bow under the seat. We threw in a 700lb bag in the main cockpit of the boat the other day and it was amazing.

For yours, it's hard to tell. If you ride with 5+ people in the boat, go 2-250's in the back and 1~350 up front.

[ultra82]

Yeah, maybe ill find a way to prove him otherwise until then its just going to be a stock wake...which I guess is fine...make me better for when I get a big wake finally.

[Chocoholic]

[slidin_out]

just gotta find the right length for the speed you want to ride behind each boat, try this, fill up the ballast if you're using it, get the boat up to the speed you like, let the rope drag behind the boat, pull it in to the spot on the wake you think has the best ramp, set your rope length as close to that as you can get, may be a little in front of it or a little behind it, your rope should have different lengths available to choose from, if not get a rope with 3' or 5' take offs so you can more easily adjust it

i ride at 70 behind my 03 SANTE at about 24, ride at 75 at about 22 behind my buddy's 08 Moomba Outback, further back is better on his and closer in is better on mine, in my opinion anyway, don't get your mind stuck on riding at one certain length, adjust it to the boat, the speed, and the water conditions of the day

[buckthis]

you definately have to alter the lenght of the rope depending on what boat you are riding behind to get the most air!

[liquid forcekin]

just change it around until you see a change... but it surely impacts air time

[LakeIolaLuke]

Chocoholic, 100% of more experienced riders disagree with you.

[LakeIolaLuke]

Chocoholic, 100% of more experienced riders disagree with you.