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PostPosted: Aug 25, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: New to site, new to boarding. A few questions? Reply with quote

Hi guys, just wanted to start off with a few questions. Family finally got a boat, so naturally I got a wakeboard, and I have to admit, it's addictive. This may be kind of a long read, but bare with me.
First question, anybody board around the memphis area? I don't really have anybody to teach me anything, i've been trying to watch youtube and figure it out myself, but theres only so far you can learn from a video.
Second, we have a searay sport 190, its a great boat. Is this an ok wakeboarding boat?
Third, I have a hyperlite motive 140, just one i picked up from sports authority because there are no board shops anywhere in my area.. no idea how good this board is, but it seems to get the job done. I was looking at a ronix vault. The board looks awsome and i was wondering if anyone else has tested it out and how they felt about it?
Another thing, i keep hearing about non stretch rope. Any ideas on a good site i can go to, to get the handle/rope and maybe a nice vest that looks good and will keep me out of the water? The vest i have now, if i take a bad faceplant, one of the buckles has the tendency to slap me in the lip. So looking for something a little more functional for wakeboarding. Any help would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Aug 25, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the sport!

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we have a searay sport 190, its a great boat. Is this an ok wakeboarding boat?

I/Os are hit and miss for wakeboarding. Some are really good, others are lacking. A general tip for I/Os is to trim the motor up and put weight (ballast bags) in the bow. Trimming the motor pulls the back of the boat down, weight in the front balances that so the wake doesn't wash out. This is helpful when you start really trying to get bigger air. Generally, "Wakeboats" are V-drives (inboards).

The motive is a solid beginner board. I've never ridden the Vault but it looks like a good intermediate/advanced board. Not that you couldn't ride it sooner. It just won't be as forgiving as the motive. (sharper edges allow you to cut harder but a lot easier to faceplant)

Non-stretch rope is critical. This looks like a good deal to me:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPECTRA-CORE-WAKEBOARD-SKI-ROPE-LEATHER-GRIP-HANDLE-/230515120935?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

Bullet lines makes a good product. I wouldn't go with Kwik Tek stuff you see on ebay. Doesn't look like a wakeboard line.

You need to find a spectra core and a 15" handle. I know I personally prefer a leather or EVA grip handle over a rubber/pistol grip that gives me blisters to hell.

As far as vests go, you're looking for neoprene. I'd check out a wakeboard/boat store and try them on. I usually can't stand spending over $50 for a vest, but last year I bit the bullet and went with an $85 CWB. Try them on for fit. An uncomfortable vest sucks and you don't know if it'll fit if you buy one online. I also try not to have other people use it so they don't stretch it out, but sometimes that's not an option.

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PostPosted: Aug 25, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

appreciate it man, i was also noticing, competition vests.. like the pullovers and such. they look great but do they really keep you floating in the water? and the line and handle, i saw a kwik tek spectra line with a rubber foam handle. but you said to stay away from this?
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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Competition vests don't float you much. I know some people who ride with them but I personally don't. Look for a US CGA (Coast Guard Approved) vest. Comp vests won't keep you afloat if you get knocked unconscious and your lungs fill with water, you will sink. There are some stories on these boards. Getting knocked out isn't common, but it's fatal with a comp vest.

Do you have a link for that Kwik Tek spectra line? Here's one I found

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An AIRHEAD exclusive, this wakeboard rope has the small diameter look of Spectra or Dyneema, the ultra low stretch too, but at half the price!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KWIK-TEK-AIRHEAD-DYNA-CORE-WAKEBOARD-ROPE-3-SECT-70FT-/200508161099?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

I'd definitely go bullet for the extra money. They make a solid product. It's obvious Kwik Tek is not interested in that.

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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a pullovervest from Jobe and it's awesome.. no straps, no zips, not bulky, floats perfectly fine and is SO comfortable! costs more but it was worth it..

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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright i ordered a bullet line rope and handle, appreciate that heads up. and that vest, does it keep you floating, or does it just fit comfy? i'd rather not die from drowning lol
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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

floats effortles! i'm still a noobie at this but the only downside of this vest is that it's hard to take off.. otherwise it's far better for freestyle then any vest i've had on (and i HAVE had on quite a few vests..)
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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the hyperlite side entry vest? it looks pretty nice, and is cga. any comments on it from anyone thats tried it?
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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya the pullover ones are non cga approved so they don't count as a life jacket in the boat or while riding so depending on where your riding you could get a ticket for wearing a ncga vest.
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PostPosted: Aug 26, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i rode a motive for about a year then stepped up to a ronix one and did just fine with the switch
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PostPosted: Aug 27, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eric mf soler wrote:
Ya the pullover ones are non cga approved so they don't count as a life jacket in the boat or while riding so depending on where your riding you could get a ticket for wearing a ncga vest.
o well... for safety it doesnt matter so i'll rock it!
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PostPosted: Aug 29, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

da Liks, I'd double check the safety. Bottom line is that if it floated well enough to be CGA, they would go through the certification process. The issue isn't whether it floats you with your board on, upright, with your lungs full of air. It's when the board comes off and your lungs are filled with water.

You can do this test easily. Jump in the water with the vest on, exhale as much as you can and see if you sink. Some people are willing to risk it, which is fine, it's why they make them. But people need to be informed about their decision and know the risks.

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PostPosted: Aug 29, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i will try it! thanks for the warning!
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PostPosted: Sep 10, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a Motive 140 for about a month, daily I might add, before I upgraded to a 138 Liquid Force Watson Classic. Switch came easy.
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