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Nauty Addict


Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 827 City: Lake Dallas
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: These days airlines SUCK!!!! |
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Recently I've began to do a lot of traveling for work and I'm quickly getting to the point to where I'd rather drive the 3-4 hours to get where I'm going instead of taking a 45 minute flight.
Since when did they (American Airlines) do away with standby? Today I finish up a little earlier than expected, so I decide to head the airport and try to get on standby for the earlier flight. After doing 80-90 mph through most of greater Houston, I arrive about 30 mins before the plane is scheduled to leave only to be told that AA no longer does standby. Oh they have plenty of empty seats on this flight, but I must pay a $50 fee to get one!
Apparently standby is only free to those with platinum priority status. WTF??? What's more is now they are also charging a fee to board early. Because the bastards already charge for checked bags everyone and their mother is now carrying on their luggage. Therefore, the sooner you board the better your chances of finding space for your bags. Now you can pay up to $19 for the luxury of boarding early. Heck, if you're going to do that you might as well pay to check your bags!
Things in the airline industry are starting to get out of control!!! _________________ "I'm not a professional wakeboarder, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night". |
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Faust Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1496
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Southwest ftw |
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Sinkoumn Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1706 City: Side Lake, MN - Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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^Southwest = turning a 45 min flight into 5hr's of travel time because of connections _________________ Neuston Boards
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Nauty Addict


Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 827 City: Lake Dallas
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Faust wrote: | | Southwest ftw |
Getting to DFW is much less of a PITA for me than it is to ge to Love Field. _________________ "I'm not a professional wakeboarder, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night". |
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fish6942 Addict

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 603
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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The airlines absolutely need to enforce their maximum size limits for carry on bags. If your trip requires a larger or extra bag then check the damn thing(s). No reason for the rest of us to suffer for your situation.
Until newer planes come out with additional self-service storage, either pack light or pay the baggage handling fees.
FWIW - Delta just took my family of 5 from MSP to SFO and back and I have no complaints. |
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Faust Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1496
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think anyone is complaining about maximum size limits for carry-on bags... |
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STPHNSN23 Guest
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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as the son of an airline employee, i have no sympathy for anyone who complains about airlines. look at the cost of your ticket today versus the cost of a ticket 15 years ago. ticket cost has gone down while every expense to the airline has gone up. fuel prices, labor costs, maintenance, hell even peanut costs have gone up. of course you're going to have to start charging for some services if ticket prices are going to go down. if you didn't have to pay for luggage fees, snack fees, and the like, you'd be paying more for your seat, and god knows no one would stand for that.
it's the same concept as the people who bitch about all the jobs leaving the US but who would also bitch about the cost of products that are made in the US had the jobs stayed. |
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Neognosis Ladies Man


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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On delta: flight to wisconsin through chicago: 243.00
fligt just to chicago: 1100 dollars. Anyone want to guess why? A friend of mine did research on this for his mba recently and we talked about this today.... _________________ I walk 47 miles of barb wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie, a brand new house up on the road side, and it's made out of rattlesnake hide |
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_bruky Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 1201
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I wasn't actually aware people took flights as a replacement for driving 3-4 hours. By the time you park, go through luggage, et cetera, there is no way in dollars you come ahead - time wise or dollars spent directly with travel. |
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JV Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 3881 City: San Diego
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Faust wrote: | | I don't think anyone is complaining about maximum size limits for carry-on bags... |
I am. The "one carry on and one personal item" rule has turned into that massive combo luggage set with one bag on rollers and a good size bag stacked on top + a laptop bag or massive "purse" bags for women. I've had to check my one normal sized backpack a dozen times because they've ran out of overhead room, adding half an hour to my travel time waiting for baggage claim.
CB, please do explain. I'm curious. I'm going to Seattle in a couple months, and I almost bought tickets to Bellingham by way of SEATAC airport (never intending to board the connection to Bellingham) because they were less expensive than flights only to SEATAC. Are they giving massive discounts for the inconvenience of having to change flights?...or overcharging for direct flights? _________________ "I'm scared if I stop drinking all at once, the cumulative hangover will literally kill me." |
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Canucked Addict


Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 873 City: Edmonton
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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_bruky,
I assumed you would avoid these things by flying private. |
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K-dub Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Canucked, you have Bruky confused with Ky1e |
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brew Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 2778 City: Jackson
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | CB, please do explain. I'm curious. |
Same here. Direct flights out of Memphis on Delta are 3x as expensive as going to Nashville and taking a connecting flight that goes through Memphis. With Memphis it's got more to do with being a Northwest hub and the Fed Ex issue, but it's still ridiculous.
I've flown 30+ times in the last couple of years and I've got no real complaints with the airlines themselves. I tend not to fly Southwest, because everything always seems to be delayed. I've flown American, United, Delta/Northwest, and a number of small regionals and really have had an easy time of it. I always check my bags, and I wish for the most part that they would just do away with carry on's. It tends to slow down the boarding and offloading, because people are trying to put too much crap in the overheads. Leave it for computers, etc. and check your damn bag. |
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Neognosis Ladies Man


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Their pricing analysts know that most people flying from certain cities to chicago are flying for business, and therefore will not bargain hunt as much as someone who is paying out of their own pocket. They know that more people flying to wisconsin for pleasure, and will be willing to pay as much.
So they stick it to corporations who have more of a need to fly there than people flying to another destination for pleasure.
While I dont' think they should do away with carry ons, I think they should decrease the allowed size and actively enforce it. You HAVE to allow carry ons because some people MUST have access to medication or small, expensive items (like a laptop) that they either are not willing to trust to baggage or that they are unable to. My computer has a lot of sensitive info on it, there is no way I'm checking it. If I needed a daily medication, I would never check that either.
But I'm tired of seeing people spend 4 or 5 mins wrestling a bag that is too large into and then out of the overhead baggage compartment. If you can't throw it up and take it down quickly, you should not be taking it carry on. _________________ I walk 47 miles of barb wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie, a brand new house up on the road side, and it's made out of rattlesnake hide |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| My carry on is always my backpack with laptop, chargers, and school books. Anything else goes underneath the plane out of mine and everyone elses way for a solid $15 on AirTran. Never had a problem with them and I fly with them a few times out of the year to go home/back for breaks. |
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ChrisG Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 1123 City: Brentwood, CA
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Just flew round trip from Oakland to Oahu on Hawaiian Airlines with no complaints.
The four tickets only cost me $1400 total. |
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_bruky Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 1201
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Canucked wrote: | _bruky,
I assumed you would avoid these things by flying private. |
No private jet here. I can't say this with certainty, but likely being one of the most frequent flyers on wb.com, I could nearly justify one.
I'm straying from this conversation. Nobody wants to know what I paid in airfare last year, nor do I want to remind myself  |
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Nauty Addict


Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 827 City: Lake Dallas
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| _bruky wrote: | | I wasn't actually aware people took flights as a replacement for driving 3-4 hours. By the time you park, go through luggage, et cetera, there is no way in dollars you come ahead - time wise or dollars spent directly with travel. |
You are correct, but I'm not paying for my flight, the company I work for is. Therefore, I'd rather kick back in the terminal and rant about airlines on my iphone as opposed to having to focus on driving for 4 hours
My other rant is the amount of levels there are in the boarding process. On American this afternoon there were no less that 4 levels of pre-boarding before general boarding began:
First Class
Platinum
Executive Platinum
Priority Access
General boarding
I felt sorry for the dudes in group 5 of general boarding because they'd be hard pressed to get a lunch pail in the overhead storage.  _________________ "I'm not a professional wakeboarder, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night". |
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pyrocasto PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 5291 City: hendersonville
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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| STPHNSN23 wrote: | as the son of an airline employee, i have no sympathy for anyone who complains about airlines. look at the cost of your ticket today versus the cost of a ticket 15 years ago. ticket cost has gone down while every expense to the airline has gone up. fuel prices, labor costs, maintenance, hell even peanut costs have gone up. of course you're going to have to start charging for some services if ticket prices are going to go down. if you didn't have to pay for luggage fees, snack fees, and the like, you'd be paying more for your seat, and god knows no one would stand for that.
it's the same concept as the people who bitch about all the jobs leaving the US but who would also bitch about the cost of products that are made in the US had the jobs stayed. |
I'm not gonna bitch about pricing, but as a company I hate most airlines. I dont mind having the prices of everything broke down and charged for if I wish for each service, but I HATE security, and waiting, and of course always seeming to lose luggage... Some people have no trouble but every time I fly someone loses a bag. Just kind of a cross your fingers deal.
Much rather drive if it's within 12 hours or so.  _________________
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At least 50% of the population is retarded so I discount what they think or feel automatically. |
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Lop Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 4019 City: St Louis MO
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 3:31 am Post subject: |
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I flew Airtran last week. My only complaint is that online check in does absolutely nothing if you have to check a bag and the lines at their ticketing counters are ridiculous. _________________
| RampageWake wrote: | | Wakeboardrumma wrote: | | have good clean honest fun without alcohol. |
After you do that, help me find me leprechaun.....  |
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fish6942 Addict

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 603
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| Faust wrote: | | I don't think anyone is complaining about maximum size limits for carry-on bags... |
No one is complaining about the size limits because they are not enforced. If they were enforced, people wouldn't be able to bring these large bags onboard that consume excessive space in the overhead compartments. Also if they were enforced, the rest of us that bring a moderately sized bag would have sufficient space available (like how the system is designed to work). |
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Canucked Addict


Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 873 City: Edmonton
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Canucked, you have Bruky confused with Ky1e
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they're not the same person? |
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hammy Outlaw


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 137 City: dallas-ish
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I like SW for intrastate. I can catch a red eye to Austin/Houston/SA, do what I do and be back home by 5. Making that drive same day drains me and usually puts me home by 7 or 8.
I flew mostly American last year. Carry on bags are out of control, wish they would enforce the size limits..... Fares where I went were reasonable, even with baggage fees. |
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Aubs Motorboat Queen

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9167
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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HATE Southwest. JetBlue all the way  |
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8824 Ladies Man

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 15136 City: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| ChrisG wrote: | Just flew round trip from Oakland to Oahu on Hawaiian Airlines with no complaints.
The four tickets only cost me $1400 total. |
Hawaiin is one of the best airlines imo.
How was the surf?
My last two trips AA lost a bag on each trip. We have priority and they still lost bags which were found and delivered the next day. |
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jason_ssr Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4054 City: Dallas, Tx
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Flights should charge by the pound, period. Ticket price should be set at X dollars per pound. You and all your crap get on a scale, you are weighed, and charged accordingly. Then it doesnt matter about checked bags, etc. Families with small kids would fly cheaper, etc.
Another cool trick Ive heard about is to pack a pistol everywhere you go. Im thinking of going to a pawn shop and buying a cheap broken one. A gun in a checked bag is guaranteed not to be lost. They are all tagged and watched at every transfer. _________________ TONA
My avatar is NOT a pic of me! HAHA! |
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jason_ssr wrote: |
Another cool trick Ive heard about is to pack a pistol everywhere you go. Im thinking of going to a pawn shop and buying a cheap broken one. A gun in a checked bag is guaranteed not to be lost. They are all tagged and watched at every transfer. |
^^ Starter pistol FTW. _________________ wakeboards
wakeboarding
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ChrisG Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 1123 City: Brentwood, CA
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| 8824 wrote: | | How was the surf? |
What surf? We actually drove up to the North Shore one day and I stopped into a surf shop to pick up a pair of board shorts (I forgot mine) and the guys were telling me that there were actually no waves....go figure. It was great for snorkeling.
BTW, Hawaiian Airlines is the top rated airline in the US. It's too bad they don't fly to more destinations. Then again, that's probably why they're number one. |
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USMGolfer Addict

Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 628 City: Hixson
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ChrisG wrote: |
BTW, Hawaiian Airlines is the top rated airline in the US. It's too bad they don't fly to more destinations. Then again, that's probably why they're number one. |
Check again http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/06/08/airline.satisfaction.study/index.html
Aubs, I did a presentation today on jetBlue and from everything I've studied (I do a lot of research on the airline industry bc of personal interest) they seem to have their ducks in a row better than anyone _________________
| Lop wrote: | | the only way I'd kick her out of bed is if she wanted to f#$k on the floor |
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ridininmd Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1231
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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I despise flying SW, assign me a damn seat instead of having everyone sprint and elbow to get on the plane. Oh and quit it with the stupid ass singing. For some reason I always get stuck next an annoying person who feels the need to tell me their life story or who has the screaming kid with them when I have to fly SW. Have some damn consideration for others people, you know if your kid is capable of sitting reasonably still and being quiet for an extended period of time, if they are not then drive!
I fly JetBlue whenever possible, the seats are great and TV in the headrest? Yes please!
I wish MidWest Express was still around, I was lucky enough to fly them a few times back in the day. They had amazing food, and for afternoon flights they baked cookies during the flight and served them hot with milk. So awesome. |
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Tbonez Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 3276 City: ATL
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Posted: Jun 18, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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People complain about the airline industry but you get what you pay for...Maintenance is up, wages are up, aircraft cost are up, gate fees are up yet the price of a ticket is virtually the same as it was in the late 70s early 80s. With inflation in the mix its actually cheaper to fly today than it was in the 1960s. People want a greyhound in the sky but want limosine service to go with it. _________________ You know you own someone when you can agitate them enough to quote you in their signature. |
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8824 Ladies Man

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 15136 City: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Jun 18, 2010 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Tbonez,
Since you are in Atlanta. Check out Delta's surfboard policy compared to other airlines.
I no longer fly Delta or United. I will pay more on other carriers just to avoid these two.
And if AA keeps up their lack of service, I will be switching again shortly.
I have called AA to get mileage added to my account from two recent flights. After three calls, and 5 months later no mileage posted. These flight were from Jan and March.
If any other business provided service like this, they would be out of business. _________________ www.integrity-wake.com |
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8824 Ladies Man

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 15136 City: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Jun 18, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| ChrisG wrote: | | 8824 wrote: | | How was the surf? |
What surf? We actually drove up to the North Shore one day and I stopped into a surf shop to pick up a pair of board shorts (I forgot mine) and the guys were telling me that there were actually no waves....go figure. It was great for snorkeling.
BTW, Hawaiian Airlines is the top rated airline in the US. It's too bad they don't fly to more destinations. Then again, that's probably why they're number one. |
I know Waikiki is not the NS, but it seems like there are at least waves there every single day.
Gerry Lopez was spotted there a few months ago during a sick swell. |
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jt09 Ladies Man


Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 22083 City: Austin
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Posted: Jun 18, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: |
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who the hell goes to hawaii and forgets boardshorts?  |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2010 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| 8824 wrote: | Tbonez,
If any other business provided service like this, they would be out of business. |
Not in 'Merica! |
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