anybody who has ridden the new premiers

anarchy99 · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 616 City: tacoma

hey anybody ride the new premiers with the slider base on them? does it work good? i am interested in getting on in like a month or so but i dont know if i wanna put out that much for smething thayt doesnt work

doinflipsdavis · Outlaw Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 179 City: SML VA

do all the new premiers have the slider base? i've got an '03 but i didn't notice a difference

derrick lenz · Posted: Jan 27, 2003 6:08 pm Post subject:

i haven't ridden one yet but one of my friends has the byerly with the slider base. so far it's working good but he's already had to send it back once. the top layer on one of the molded fins started to come apart but hyperlite replaced it right away. as far as it's durability in the long run only time is going to tell.

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

all of the 2003 premiers have the new base.

MackDaddyWake1 · Posted: Jan 27, 2003 6:31 pm Post subject:

Wanna hear something funny...
It's the exact same base as last year, and the year prior.
Marketing, Marketing, Marketing.

doinflipsdavis · Outlaw Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 179 City: SML VA

thats what i thought, i went and looked at mine after i saw this post. it looks and feels exactly the same, can't tell a difference

Mythodikal · Posted: Jan 27, 2003 6:54 pm Post subject:

I think that they just made it outta a new material it wont look or feel ne different cause its the same design and shape but it is harder as they say .... but Im not for sure just my opinion

Public-Enemy · Criminal Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 74 City: South florida

The premiers that came out early in the year dident have the slider base. Some of them dont have the slider base. There is deffinatly a differance between the slider base and the regualr base. I have a 03 premier without the slider base because i got one as soon as they were out in 02. The newer ones come with the sliderbase, you can tell the differance because the slider base feels sorta sticky when you dig ur finger nails into the bottom of the board. The sldier base is also mad fast on the sliders compared to the regular base.

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

i have an 03 premier with the jib base and its definetly different. you can dig your fingernail into it. the word is its made from i simaler material as skateboard wheels. as far as performance i havent ridden it yet. but i did build a slider so i cant test it this spring. and i have seen early 03 boards without the jib base, they basically just put the 03 graphics on 02 boards to get them out early.

derrick · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 723 City: Orlando

They haven't changed the premier shape since it came out. They're just trying to squeeze all they can out of that shape. New slider base, bah.
peace
Derrick

Adam Greer · Posted: Jan 28, 2003 6:15 am Post subject:

they changed the shape last year. You can tell a reasonable difference between the 01 and 02.

johoki1 · Newbie Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 10

The new premiers havent had any change to the shape but the base is defintaely different. Like somebody said before you can dig your finger nail into it, it feels like its some kind of rubber. Its much faster while sliding than the old base that was on the premiers and holds up much better. It looks like its taking alot of damage but it just makes scuffs on the surface which dont affect it. Ive been told that if the base starts to come off you can get something i think called PTEX and apply it to the base and makes it somewhat new again.

wkbrdr127 · Newbie Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 38 City: Philly

dont they use PTEX to repair gaugues in the bottom of snowboards n skis

Tyler*Moore · Guest

you idots....its not on the outside...the slider base is the 2 stiffener rods INSIDE the board to keep it from breaking as easily on sliders...STUPID

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

Tyler, you really need to do your homework before you show your ignorance. I had the hyperlite rep himself explain this to me two weeks ago. "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought to be stupid than to open it and remove all doubt" like you said -- stupid

refuse to conform · Guest

haha, what's he thinking

DRAGON88 · Posted: Jan 28, 2003 4:42 pm Post subject:

they didn't put the carbon bars in the BIO LITE cores either. IM pretty shure they on did the bas on the DNA...am I wrong?

Maestro · Posted: Jan 28, 2003 4:58 pm Post subject:

Yea you're right I think Dragon... they put the rods in the DNA to help with the durability of the board and to increase snap off the wake....

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

I'm pretty sure thats what I remember too, the balsa core needs the extra support. I guess thats why they dont call it the "jib its got two stiffener rods inside to keep it from breaking base" Laughing

Premier135Chick · Guest

I have the 02 and 03 Premier. I took my 02 on the sliders and it did just fine until I broke the nose and had to have it resined back together. I wont let my 03 go near them. The 02 is a permanent slider board now.

I did notice that the 03 was a bit slippery...I thought the fins might have something to do with that though.

RUSSIAN · Posted: Jan 28, 2003 8:43 pm Post subject:

yes p-tex is what is used on snowboards. The premier has not changed shapes at all

Tyler*Moore · Guest

Im looking at the Hyperlite cataloge RIGHT now...this is what it says about the Jib base

~Stronger than our pure base
~Available on TDF,Parks,Belmont DNA boards
~Available on all Premier and Byerly boards
~A more controled feel for rifers looking to get their jib on

Now some questions for you...

~How can a coating on the bottom be stronger than the pure base?
~If it is more slippery...how can it have a more controled feel?

BTW...I have a 2003 belmont 131 DNA...so I felt my board...nothing different bout it...

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

More durable=stronger
I dont know who said its spippery but its not, its actully rubbery whitch will give the rider more feedback while sliding. pvs against the pure base is ultra slick= no feedback, no control. with a slight amount of resistance the rider will have way more control while on the slider. kind of like snow tires, i know thats a lame comparison but its the only one i could think of right now.
try this I did-- i took my 02 belmont and held it by the tail and way out to my left and set it on the pvc of my slider-- just by gravity it slid all the way to about 10" past bottom( in front of me). i did this with my premier(jib base) and it did not slide at all without me helping it along.

I also have a 6' kicker. again i can set my belmont on the surface and it will slide down. The premier will not

just a little note-- friendly debate is welcome and fun, useless slander is not.

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

BTW Tyler when did you purchase your o3 board, the early o3 models did not have the jib base.

Public-Enemy · Criminal Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 74 City: South florida

Tyler...wat were u thinking?, rods in a premier...and then calling us idiots...To bad im staring at the open core of my snapped 03 premier, funny i dont see any rods...

wssx2 · Criminal Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 85 City: ga

i rode one at owc this fall when they had just gotten some in those things slide awesome i was ridin my 01 premier on the big funbox and my friend rented the 03 so i stole it from him and tried it on the box way more control and feel

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

OK boys listen up here it is:

I e-mailed paul at HL he's the head of product development

Hey Jason,
The jib base is the urethane "rubbey" material on the Premiers and Byerlys.
We also have a different jib base on the bottoms of the Parks/Belmonts/TFD DNA boards which is made out of a nylon material.

-Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Skobi1@aol.com [mailto:Skobi1@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:38 PM
To: paul@hyperlite.com
Subject: jib base

Paul, sorry to bother you. I'm in a little debate with a friend about exactly what the new jib base is. I'm prety sure its the rubbery coating on the base of the board, he thinks its refering the the stiffener rods inside the dna boards. can you please lay it out for us in detail I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Jason Skovbo

Adam Greer · Posted: Jan 29, 2003 5:21 pm Post subject:

PE do you have DNA or biolite? DNA is supposed to have rods

Public-Enemy · Criminal Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 74 City: South florida

im riding the bio

Adam Greer · Posted: Jan 29, 2003 7:26 pm Post subject:

yeah, they don't have rods in the bio

slaydit · Posted: Jan 29, 2003 8:28 pm Post subject:

so iv got an 03....kinda....not really....but yeah
more like an 02...

-jey

Tyler*Moore · Guest

Ok guys, Im sorry for going off on ya'll...Now I see why I didnt feel a difference...I guess I thought since my bottom wasnt rubbery that it was the stiffener rods, and when I read the comments, it sounded like the stiffener rods...

Im truly sorry and hope there are no hard feelings... You can ask my friends...I call anyone and idiot that doesnt agree with me...I didnt mean you guys were stupid or whatever

skobi1 · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 639 City: eugene, or

No problem Tyler, keep it real