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Afrodeziak Outlaw

Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 121 City: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Posted: Aug 15, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: Custom Di-cut decals - Lettering & Graphics |
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Making anything you need, boat lettering, graphics, etc. Team stickers, vehicle size, smaller ones.
many colors available (see list)
prices range depending on quantity's size and materials. I can assure you it won't be robbery though.
If you have a design of your own that you want converted, I can do that as well.
Payment via PayPal, Actual shipping costs
Doing this out of my basement, hope I can spread some stoke.
cheers
Brennan
Examples of work done:
more examples
PM for details. _________________ www.betacuts.com
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Afrodeziak Outlaw

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Posted: Oct 31, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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bump it up _________________ www.betacuts.com
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Afrodeziak Outlaw

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Posted: Dec 03, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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winter bump _________________ www.betacuts.com
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Afrodeziak Outlaw

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bumpin' it up. _________________ www.betacuts.com
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macdadmorgan Newbie

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Yooper Criminal

Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 58 City: Marquette
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Posted: Aug 29, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| macdadmorgan wrote: | | Change for a nickle? |
Heh.... awesome. Can you make hudge stickers too? (Iceman wakeboards in jeans...) |
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STANG KILLA SS Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 2086 City: Killeen TX
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whats the largest width you can cut without splicing? _________________
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Commodore Ladies Man


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Posted: Sep 08, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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1) all I see is little red X's.
2) Might want to consider other options other than paypal. In case you get a guy like me, who wants some decals. But will never ever use Paypal. |
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kyle f Addict

Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 835 City: Norris Lake
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Posted: Sep 16, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I contacted him and looked at his website. You have to have a certain file type or he charges you to convert it. You can't use Gif or Jpg.
He has no standard sizes for anything, you have to provide all of that to him. As in, if you want to be in the sticker business do some research and have a standard Windshield banner size for lettering so you can give a cost.
The whole set up just sounded like a guy with a printer in his garage. Makes me a little hesitant to order from him over the internet when my money will already be gone before I get to see the quality of work. _________________ Always looking for others who ride on Norris Lake in TN
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Afrodeziak Outlaw

Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 121 City: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Posted: Apr 07, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Here's some information to clarify some of the comments above.
Die-cut plotters use vector format, like .eps, (.ai) illustrator, corel, .pdf.
.gif and .jpg are bitmap images which can't be re-sampled without loss of quality of the edges. They are not used in the decal industry, unless being printed onto something.
This means I'd have to run the gif/jpg through my software, convert them to vector, and touch up any lines which look like jagged "pixelated." It's my time, so it's billed slightly into the price of the work. Try taking a .jpg to a sign shop in your home town. They will bill you $20/hr without question for set-up costs, which usually does not even include cost of "graphic design" conversion.
I choose not to have standard sizes for anything. There's no point in calling your work custom, if you only offer specific sizes. I quote based on size, complexity of design, quantity and dimension. All of these play a factor in what you'd pay. If a design is complex, it takes more time to weed excess vinyl from the backing. Sure, someone who does printed stickers, will have a pre-determined price for a 3" x 3", 4" circle, etc, because the cost/amount of work required is standard. For me, it could mean an extra 5 minutes to weed a complex decal. A sign-shop would charge in the same manner.
My typical customers usually have have an idea in mind, I design a mock-up layout and work with them on the design. Every customer needs a certain size, for whatever their intended use.
Yes, my work is done from home, it's a hobbyist side business which I've managed to make work both locally and online. Shops who pay rent, own many machines, etc, have a higher operating cost, therefore your orders cost MORE. My set-up has a smaller overhead, so I am able to consider charging a bit LESS. I have a business number at that, so I have no intent to be shady. There has been many happy customers with a lengthy portfolio of custom work which I've done for people.
I provide design/re-design, cutting and application of vinyl (locally).
Try to find anyone willing to do all three of these jobs for you, without charging through the nose for it.
Anyhow, hopefully that fills in the gaps and the absence of credibility that there seems to have been.
To those who have interest, hit the link below.
Cheers
Brennan _________________ www.betacuts.com
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kyle f Addict

Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 835 City: Norris Lake
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Posted: Apr 20, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Afrodeziak wrote: | Here's some information to clarify some of the comments above.
Die-cut plotters use vector format, like .eps, (.ai) illustrator, corel, .pdf.
.gif and .jpg are bitmap images which can't be re-sampled without loss of quality of the edges. They are not used in the decal industry, unless being printed onto something.
This means I'd have to run the gif/jpg through my software, convert them to vector, and touch up any lines which look like jagged "pixelated." It's my time, so it's billed slightly into the price of the work. Try taking a .jpg to a sign shop in your home town. They will bill you $20/hr without question for set-up costs, which usually does not even include cost of "graphic design" conversion.
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Well, there in lies the problem. Most images/designs you may be able to download some where will be .jpg/.gif format. I don'y have software to convert it. Kind of limits your market unless there is some kind ofshareware that you could providea link to for people to prep their own images. That would be a big benefit.
As for the customwork, I understandyou do custom, and fill a need. Thats great. However, take my statement as a suggestion for improving your business. When you do something that fits a particular vehicle in a certain way or certain place, save the dimensioning spec. Or in your spare time, measure some vehicles popular areas where decals are placed and keep the dimensions in a file or spread sheet so you can provide this as an additional service.
I.E Customer wants a banner to go over the Tint strip of their 2005 Mustang. You can say, ok, you have 52" of lenght and 8" of height to work with. It looks like I can put your "fill in the blank phrase here" in this font. Just something to consider.
I would really like a White MB Logo for my Escalade , one for the front in about 6" high, and one for the rear about 12" tall. But I still have no Iea how to get one in a vector format. _________________ Always looking for others who ride on Norris Lake in TN
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b33nine Soul Rider


Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 311 City: Salem-ish
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| kyle f wrote: |
Well, there in lies the problem. Most images/designs you may be able to download some where will be .jpg/.gif format. I don'y have software to convert it. Kind of limits your market unless there is some kind ofshareware that you could providea link to for people to prep their own images. That would be a big benefit.
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It isn't really about the software, it's about knowing how to convert a raster image (jpg, gif, png etc.) to a vector image (ai svg etc.). You can't just toss it into the correct program and push a button and get what you want. You literally have to re-build the image from the ground up if you're jumping from Raster to Vector. That takes a lot of know-how and even more time.
There is an open source vector program you can download and play with, it would give you a great idea of what's involved in trying to create a vector image.
http://www.inkscape.org/ |
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Afrodeziak Outlaw

Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 121 City: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 9:48 am Post subject: decals |
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pm'd _________________ www.betacuts.com
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kyle f Addict

Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 835 City: Norris Lake
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Posted: Apr 26, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| b33nine wrote: | | kyle f wrote: |
Well, there in lies the problem. Most images/designs you may be able to download some where will be .jpg/.gif format. I don'y have software to convert it. Kind of limits your market unless there is some kind ofshareware that you could providea link to for people to prep their own images. That would be a big benefit.
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It isn't really about the software, it's about knowing how to convert a raster image (jpg, gif, png etc.) to a vector image (ai svg etc.). You can't just toss it into the correct program and push a button and get what you want. You literally have to re-build the image from the ground up if you're jumping from Raster to Vector. That takes a lot of know-how and even more time.
There is an open source vector program you can download and play with, it would give you a great idea of what's involved in trying to create a vector image.
http://www.inkscape.org/ |
Never said it was easy, but some things are just the cost of doing business. I have never seen a downloadable Vector file format on the internet... so... given that is where most people find logos, graphics, and the like... it would be a great benefit to off te conversion. Time is cheap when you work for yourself, my brother and I know. It hard starting a business, and its hard to keep it going... but when getting started, you really have to look at what all is involved, and all I am saying is, if you want more business... just convert the images. Then you will have a much larger market.
Oh and its not like you cant hold onto these files and develop a library. Next time around you wont have to convert anything.
So say person 1 wants a Malibu Emblem for his truck window. You convert it and make it for him.... no chage for the conversion ofcourse. Then, wheb person 2,3,4,5,6,7....etc want Malibu logos... giess who has a file ready to go.
But ofcourse, you want person 1 to pay for it, and make his investment...meanwhile person 2,3,4,5,6... get it cheaper and the Original Poster is laughing at Person 1 for investing in his business for him and pays nothign back to Person 1.
THough if you can pull it off its a good business model. LOL. _________________ Always looking for others who ride on Norris Lake in TN
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Dutch Addict


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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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kyle f, If you're talking about ripping off already made logos of companies, then making the die-cut vinyl is easier. It still requires work though if you don't already have the vector file.
Now, if you're talking about original and custom work then you're in a whole different ball park. Lots of computer work, set up, weeding (depending on complexity), and then backing, etc.
These aren't just predetermined stickers that he's making. Take a look at his gallery and get a feel for what he's doing.
Not sure what business model you're used to but TIME ISN'T CHEAP, unless you're a or employing illegals. Then again, maybe your time is cheap.
You might want to get a clue before you start giving out business advice and telling someone what they should do or how to price their work according to what you think it should require. |
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b33nine Soul Rider


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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Not to mention that ripping off already made logos would be illegal. I don't think copy right infringement is a very good business plan
kyle f, another thing to keep in mind is that vector files are indefinitely scaleable. You can print it out at 6 inches or 6 feet and still achieve the same results (assuming it is a clean vector file).
Size isn't really the issue once you've converted the file you're wanting, but rather proportions. |
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kyle f Addict

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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Duh, guys.... Im not saying converting is easy, or quick.... and I never said to not use a vector file.. so whats the your post? All I said was most people are going tofind interesting designs and logos on the internet and they will be .jpg type files.
I just said its the cost of developing and doing business. Instead of looking at it as timeis cheap... once you do something... you haveit in your catalogue. The more times you use it... the price of your time goes down. Maybe, look at it from an investment point of view then. I just think its sketchy at best, because I bet once you send him one... he isn't going to delete it.  _________________ Always looking for others who ride on Norris Lake in TN
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Wakeboarder3780 Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 1334 City: Wausau
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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| b33nine wrote: | It isn't really about the software, it's about knowing how to convert a raster image (jpg, gif, png etc.) to a vector image (ai svg etc.). You can't just toss it into the correct program and push a button and get what you want. You literally have to re-build the image from the ground up if you're jumping from Raster to Vector. That takes a lot of know-how and even more time.
There is an open source vector program you can download and play with, it would give you a great idea of what's involved in trying to create a vector image.
http://www.inkscape.org/ |
You're my hero. I thought I was going to play my geek card and it was already laid down. +1
Additionally I can confirm that for any sizeable decals if you don't use a vector image as the source, you won't be happy with the results Vector images are truly "the sh*t" when it comes to digital images. Hope the bus goes well for you - any chance stang killa got that tree decal that he put on that board from you? If so, nice work on it. _________________ Today is a chance to become a greater person than the person we were the day before. |
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Afrodeziak Outlaw

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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Should I just close my thread and move along? You really don't want me to make a couple of dollars off of my hard work do you?
Your a troll and you know it. Other people have clearly backed my points.
There are vector graphics ALL over the internet. What do you think the design industry is based off of? A format of graphic that can be used for a variety of sizes and formats. ie. pretty well every shirt design, sticker, boat graphic, business logo is a vector format, meaning that it can be scaled from 1:1 to x : x without any loss of quality in a graphic. When it comes to the type of work I do, a fancy design from photoshop simply doesn't work. Tried silkscreening before? It's the exact same process for design.
I've already mentioned www.brandsoftheworld.com to you good sir. To say that you've never seen a .eps, .ai file on the internet is just bad research by yourself.
As mentioned above, if all I did was duplicate company logo's, I'd be in some big sh*t. I might do the odd one to help someone out who is lost and can not find factory replacements, but I can guarantee that 99% of my work is all custom.
When someone approaches me, it is in one of three ways:
1. From a designer who knows that a vinyl plotter is precise and uses files of vector, this even means autocad files. It's an exact representation. If a designer wanted to use .jpg's they'd go to a printer, who prints their design onto a piece of vinyl.
2. A person who has an idea, but no graphic.
I create some mock-ups, 9 times out of 10, it's time out of my own schedule, with no guarantee I'll even get the work.
3. Someone will provide me with an image, but it's a bitmap format like .jpg or .gif. Since these are not "scalable" vectors I have to convert them through Illustrator or Corel Draw. Bitmaps get chunky and jagged when you convert them (unless the original .jpg is high resolution) therefore you need to manually go through and clean up nodes, make jagged lines straight, boxy circles, back into circles, etc. This can be anywhere from 2min to an hour of my time.
For you to assume that because I charge this time into my costs, that I'm ripping people off... well I just don't know what to say.
Of course I keep all of my work. I need it for reference and for whether I need to re-cut in the future. The majority of what I do is custom in design and dimension, thus again 99% of the time no two people want the same thing. I'm not making TAPOUT or Hurley decals here. From my experience young kids are brand whores, they only want decals that are company brands. I typically do not accommodate their requests due to infringement issues.
I'm not sure what business background you have, but to come on a WAKEBOARD forum and try to critique what I am doing is pretty lame. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time? Until you get into the sign industry and put your "business ideas" into practice, you don't have a word of credibility.
Aside from that, threatening to report me to moderators for trying to be a "shop" is pretty lame. If they feel the need to get involved, I really don't mind, as long as you get a taste of your own idiocy. I'm not a store, I don't go to a location and sit all day hoping for vinyl business. It's a side thing, I do it because I like it. Just like you keep replying to this thread because you seem to like it enough to waste peoples time, yet no interest in the actual thread.
Bottom line, I'm resorting to being a keyboard cowboy, as you you really have no interest in purchasing anything from me, so please just walk the other way.
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