Luke 2:8-14

ryan351w · Addict Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 532

8And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

USMGolfer · Addict Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 628 City: Hixson

ryan351w, thanks for posting. It is truly amazing how many
prophecies are fulfilled in the Bible (over 300), how much people forget what the Bible actually says and what Christmas is all about.

Merry Christmas

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

Wait, wait... know what, nevermind. Merry Christmass everyone!

dbismyname · Posted: Dec 25, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject:

Good job cb

DJew Jake · Posted: Dec 25, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject:

People who believe in god are stupid.....

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

I believe in god.

DJew Jake · Posted: Dec 25, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject:

cameraboy, qed

_bruky · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 1201

This girl I'm seeing is Catholic so I went with her to Christmas dinner. I think I'll gag if I read or hear another Bible verse. I kept my mouth shut, but one of her aunts asked me "are you from Jewish descent?" after hearing my last name and assuming I was another Catholic. The next three hours I had this lady converting me with Bible literature.

I could have just gone to Chinese food with the rest of the Jews and Asians, but had to make it hard on myself. Shocked

prior40 · Addict Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 579 City: Palo Alto

_bruky, does a girl being Catholic really have anything to do with going to her Christmas dinner? From all I know, Christmas has become more of a commercial holiday than an actual religious one. The only reason I say this is I know many people of different faiths and cultures that celebrate Christmas, Christmas dinner, gift giving and such. They don't believe in Jesus Christ, the reason for Christmas, but celebrate the holiday anyway. Think before you post something this stupid again. Merry Christmas!

_bruky · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 1201

Too much egg nog, brah?

I thought I'd seen it all until a Bay Area hippy told me associating Catholicism with Christmas is stereotypical! Rolling Eyes

Happy Holidays!
Laughing

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

Hat's weird. Catholics are one of the more mellow relogions when it comes to evangelizing.

_bruky · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 1201

It's the person...

Porterwake · Posted: Dec 26, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject:

I LOVE SCRIPTURE!!! Deutronomy and Isaiah!!

[if there is no] evidence of the girls virginity [on wedding night] is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.

Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.

Nothing like worshiping a raping, murdering, beautiful God!! AMEN!!

I'm off to speak in tongues.

Medina · Posted: Dec 27, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject:

Prophecies are intepretation.

People tend to see prophecies in the bible, as they do in the Koran and other holy books. These Prophecies are just manmade. An interpretation of men.

finkle · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 4067

Medina, word

USMGolfer · Addict Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 628 City: Hixson

Medina, then you should love prophecies since you still think 9/11 is an inside job according to Alex Jones' interpretation of the facts.

cameraboy, Catholic in my area (Southern Mississippi/New Orleans) means "We've been taught to drink since we were really little," but yes I agree typically more mellow.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

hmm... I grew up catholic and we never would even consider trying to convert someone, or "spreading the good news."
That's just annoying and insulting and drives people away from God, INOO.

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

...and yet your entire existance on this forum tends to be trying to convert others to your viewpoints on everything else non-religous in the universe. Cool

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

This is a discussion forum. A non-wake discussion forum. If we were in person, I would not engage you in that type of discussion, unless the discussion was opened by yourself. I also respond to the things others say. As you do on a FORUM. I'm relatively certain that you only take issue with me because we disagree... I don't see you calling out anyone that tries to convince others of viewpoints you share with them.

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

Actually I just scrolled down and only read your post really since I'm super lazy, but I do tend to stop random people on the street and preach to them about the goodness of God. We probably don't agree on a lot of stuff, but if we were in person I wouldn't engage in this type of discussion either... that's why I have internetz.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

microman · Posted: Dec 27, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject:

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

microman · Posted: Dec 27, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject:

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beretta5spd · Posted: Dec 27, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject:

As a Christian I celebrate at this time of year Jesus' birth as He came to earth as a human. It's not hard to see Him as deity (God) to be worshipped but if u put it into the perspective that He was both God and man it puts a different twist on the story. Brings it into perspective that He walked as a man trusted in His father in heaven. It encourages me to know that I'm in a similar position. I'm not calling myself Jesus by any means...but I do understand that Jesus' death and resurrection bridged the gap between humans and God and now we can commune with Him. That was made available to every person on the face of the earth. I say this to you out of compassion and not condemnation...you can have a life like this too. The choice is yours. Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2010

_bruky · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 1201

I went to Catholic church once (of course with another Catholic girl). I've never seen so many people prying their wallets open to throw wads of cash in hats. I spent the entire Sunday morning thinking of a location to build a bigger, badder Catholic church to put this Catholic church out of business, franchises, et cetera. I see why the Jews brewed up this whole Jesus thing 2,009 years ago to raise some quick cash.

beretta5spd · Posted: Dec 28, 2009 7:08 am Post subject:

Bruky I'm not Catholic but would love to sit down and explain the principles regarding money found in the bible if there ever was the chance. There's a lot of scripture regarding handling finances. The most prevalent themes you will find are humility and honor. Honoring God with the tithe and offerings (Malachi 3:6-10) is just one scripture that teaches honor and humility regarding our finances. The world's money system pushes buying and selling, and we can get caught up in greed (stems from pride) within that. And it's not that Christians aren't supposed to or are allowed to operate in it. There's many scriptures regarding how to operate in the marketplace and prosper in that. But most importantly, Christians are called to be givers. Good givers and good receivers. That's the principle God's kingdom operates out of when it comes to money.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

I find that a bit ironic, given the forum we are posting on.

beretta5spd · Posted: Dec 28, 2009 7:16 am Post subject:

cameraboy...I'm not quite sure what u mean by that.

Nice! 14000 posts overnight

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

This sport requires massive expenditure of capitol on things nobody really needs. Expensive boat, bindings, board, rope, fuel, life jacket, etc. What does the bible say about buying tons of crap you don't need?

beretta5spd · Posted: Dec 28, 2009 8:05 am Post subject:

Good question...my wife and I had a good discussion on this one.

Now in Psalm 37:4 it says:
Delight yourself also in the Lord, and He shall give you the desires of your heart.

Also there's the story regarding God giving Solomon the choice of anything he wanted. 1 Kings chapter 3. Solomon chose wisdom, rather than riches and God gave him massive riches and length of days because he asked for wisdom. God wanted Solomon and many others in the bible to have wealth.

If it's all about the things fulfilling our desires we're out of sync with God. But if it's Him we desire, he'll give us the desires of our hearts.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

amazing. sounds like rationalizing to me, but I'm probably more guilty than anyone else, so....

Porterwake · Posted: Dec 29, 2009 8:50 am Post subject:

Have none of you actually read the Bible? There is nothing good about the character Yahweh in the Bible.

He clearly endorses slavery, murder, rape of his enemies, drop a wall on 30,000 people, and mass genocide and baby killing.

Let the apologetics come. Big deal you can quote a couple verses of "good" things, but that doesn't change anything. You cannot DENY these awful things in the Bible because it is was contextualizes everything you believe in your doctrine.

Here is the story, most of modern civilization has one-upped "God's" laws in the Bible because we finally figured out by ourselves that slavery and sexism is wrong. We finally figured out that all men are created equal, because in the Bible is is extremely clear that under God, not all men are created equal, since he demands the execution of several different types of people and actions.

Religion has had it's chance for thousands of years, Atheism is the fastest growing belief system because we figured out that the Bible is a bunch of control mechanisms written when the wheelbarrel was the hot tech item.

And now for more scripture of the loving creator of the universe, which thankfully we have escaped because of secularism:

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB) - How many people on this forum should we have killed by now?

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) - Under Biblical and Yahweh's law we should kill Tiger Woods. Not to mention the law I posted above, all the women that must be stoned to death for not being virgins.

[Lord gave these instructions to Moses]Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT) - How many people work on Sunday? We would have millions dead every Sunday. Oh Moses, why don't we post your ten commandments on government property? Oh because the Lord also demanded this b/s.

If you truly believe this God fellow is really loving and all-knowing, you are an absolute moron. There is no question everybody on this message board is vastly more moral than Yahweh. You just refuse to accept it.

Bible believers are morons and you know you are if you have to rationalize it.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

Porterwake, looks like you missed the New Testament and all the works of St. Augustine and St. Aquinas. Get back to me when you've started.