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ryan351w Addict


Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 532
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: Are you "good" at wakeboarding? |
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Just curious at what point do you consider yourself good at wakeboarding?
Or do you consider others "good" at wakeboarding....
Is there like a certain number of tricks you or someone can do that makes them good? I know theres no set definition of "good" and that changes for everybody so thats why I'm asking for everybody's definition of "good".
Ryan _________________ Whenever I see an $80,000 Wakesetter pulling a tuber, I die a little inside. |
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NKCrider Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 2644 City: NKC
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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i dont consider myself "good" because i cant w2w yet, but i consider my friends good cause they can. its all just preference _________________ Lanexa VA |
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ryan351w Addict


Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 532
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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No i agree, thats why i'm asking, just to get a scope of what people think is good. _________________ Whenever I see an $80,000 Wakesetter pulling a tuber, I die a little inside. |
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WillWakeUp Criminal

Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 68
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think beeing good is making wakeboaridng look easy. Doing tricks with ease.
I considered myself good before subscribing to this forum.
But i realized that the guys around here can do raleys, 540s and flips. I can't do that stuff. |
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taitrt Soul Rider

Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 413
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| People who throw backrolls and tantrums are "good" at wakeboarding... everything else is just icing on the cake. |
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NorthwestRider Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1175 City: Puyallup, WA
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Craig-R Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 19 Dec 2008 Posts: 1676
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| NorthwestRider wrote: | | It all depends on how they look when they ride and now comfortable they are on the water and in the air. I know a lot of good wakeboarders that can just to basic 180s, grabs, and TS jumps. I also know a lot of bad wakeboarders that can do tantrums, back rolls and 360s. |
well said. it's rare that someone makes it look easy, it takes a lot of time on the water to make it look effortless.. unless you're a natural (not me) |
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savage3221 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 3856 City: Austin, TX
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think that someone who qualifies as good is someone who has a wide array of abilities on their boards. Like, anything they try, even if it's kinda new, is as natural to them as if they tried to do something on land on their feet. W2W stuff, buttering around, goofing around, jumping over stuff, saving themselves from silly falls in unexpected ways... you get the idea I think. All of this is always accompanied by making whatever they do look significantly like some type of style or another. I dunno, it's pretty subjective as has been said, but I think this is a definition that can be applied to any type of rider. _________________ Keep Austin Weird |
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savage3221 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 3856 City: Austin, TX
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| NorthwestRider wrote: | | It all depends on how they look when they ride and now comfortable they are on the water and in the air. I know a lot of good wakeboarders that can just to basic 180s, grabs, and TS jumps. I also know a lot of bad wakeboarders that can do tantrums, back rolls and 360s. |
yeah, exactly. _________________ Keep Austin Weird |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure about how to define "good." Most people have a pretty varied version of that. I will say I felt like a legitimate wakeboarder when I could land my first invert regularly. When people find out you wakeboard that's usually the first (or second) question they ask. _________________ You have just entered the twilight zone. |
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leviwynnyk Soul Rider


Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 452 City: Sylvan Lake
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Wakebrad, agreed.
I think to the average person, someone who can go W2W both ways and do grabs, 180's and an invert or two would qualify as "good". Some people can get to this point in a season for some it takes years. "Good" is really relative to your abilities and knowledge of the sport so it's totally open to interpertation.
But if you were to take a group of noobs out and do a Tantrum, I would bet if you asked all of the noobs, they's say that rider was good. _________________ 2010 Watson Hybrid
2012 Ronix One's
2012 Mastercraft X-30 |
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Chocoholic Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 363 City: Dubai
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. The main point for me is to have fun. As has been said I know plenty of people who can do big air tricks, but suck at simple surface tricks and vice versa. I think it's how competent you are at the things that you can do.
I got emailed some interesting training logs recently, that coaches and judges use to define Novice, Intermediate and Advanced. Basically it breaks it down into basics and tricks per category.
If anyone would like a copy, PM me your email and would be happy to pass them on. I find it really useful as you can track your progess and it puts what you should be achieving into some sort of order, so that you don't try to run before you can crawl as it were. _________________ Suck it up and get hardcore! |
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Flydenrict Newbie

Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 18 City: Minneapolis
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Wakebrad wrote: | | I'm not sure about how to define "good." Most people have a pretty varied version of that. I will say I felt like a legitimate wakeboarder when I could land my first invert regularly. When people find out you wakeboard that's usually the first (or second) question they ask. |
For sure. That bugged the hell out of me when people would ask,"oh you wakeboard? can you do all those flips and things?" Because I would have to say no. They dont care about sw and reg 3's or toe back ones or anything. about two years ago i was able to say "yes i can" and really impress everybody hahaha. not saying this make you good, just saying it is kind of funny |
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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 2693
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Once you have bad knees from riding.  _________________ Liquid Force
Spy Optic
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Craig-R Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 19 Dec 2008 Posts: 1676
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 6:42 am Post subject: |
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ilubronix, or a bad back  |
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Medina Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1269 City: Netherlands
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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If someone can do a double s bend to blind, but thats the only trick he can, is he considerd good?
Well, a good wakeboarder, i think all wakeboarders are good, alsong as you stay on the board youre a wakeboard and youre doing well...
As for style, thats something different, i dont think good has anything to do with tricks, but with style... _________________
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skurfer Criminal

Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 57 City: T-dot
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Do you get to wakeboard? "GOOD" That's all that matters!  |
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JeffreyCH Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2205 City: Lincoln
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I guess I would consider myself "good" at it. Not that my bag of tricks is very deep, but everything just kind of came natural to me. I get into a zone where everything just flows, I don't even think about what trick I'm gonna do till I do it. Last time out I got about 3/4 rotation on a back roll without even thinking or trying to do it it was such a rush, the feeling of being upside down, then blam face first into the water. Wish I would have had time for a few more sets to actually try it a couple more times. Oh well, I'll get it next year. _________________
| _bruky wrote: | | 99 problems but wisdom ain't one. |
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ryan351w Addict


Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 532
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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leviwynnyk-Great point didn't even think about the knowledge part of it.
| Quote: | | Once you have bad knees from riding. | Sweet! I tore my ACL setp 9th this year doing a tantrum---and i landed it... go figure. _________________ Whenever I see an $80,000 Wakesetter pulling a tuber, I die a little inside. |
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TnR6Rida Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 4905 City: West TN
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Overall i would not consider myself good, but among the poeple I ride with, and the other people I see at the lake riding I would consider myself good. My friends would say I'm good because I can do a backroll, and try a lot of other things. |
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Medina Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1269 City: Netherlands
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Well same here, i can do backroll frontflips and alot more, but i aint that good. I havent got style... well, nick davies is good.
Jeaah those inverts are indeed not good for your knees, i feel differences between prewakeboard, and now...
Not good. _________________
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LoudonTN Addict


Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 785 City: Boat Mfg U.S.A. - East Tennessee
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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No, but I like to pretend  _________________ '05 Supra Launch 24SSV |
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beretta5spd Outlaw

Joined: 15 Nov 2009 Posts: 189 City: Nipawin,SK, Canada
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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To me a good wakeboarder is one who progresses. If I am not progressing I consider my riding for that particular amount of time "not good." Someone who goes out and throws down the same run that looks the same as they did the last 20 times they were out is not riding "good" to me. _________________ Isaiah 43:2 --> When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
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Stephan Guest
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Good wakeboarding is done by someone who wakeboards for their own enjoyment, not for a bag of tricks, not for chicks, not for accolades. Its about getting on the water and letting yourself go. For some that may mean buttering around, for another its stomping a new trick. If you are having fun then you are "good", don't change a thing. |
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JeffreyCH Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2205 City: Lincoln
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Posted: Nov 17, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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beretta5spd, Stephan, Well said by both of you  _________________
| _bruky wrote: | | 99 problems but wisdom ain't one. |
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ryan351w Addict


Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 532
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Posted: Nov 17, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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All the comments have been very insightful. _________________ Whenever I see an $80,000 Wakesetter pulling a tuber, I die a little inside. |
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sirPARTYman Outlaw


Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 188 City: Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| Stephan wrote: | | Good wakeboarding is done by someone who wakeboards for their own enjoyment, not for a bag of tricks, not for chicks, not for accolades. Its about getting on the water and letting yourself go. For some that may mean buttering around, for another its stomping a new trick. If you are having fun then you are "good", don't change a thing. |
well said....but personally I feel your not a wakeboarder until you can ride away from a tantrum  _________________ A day not wasted is a day waisted... |
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dalderman Soul Rider


Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 356 City: Carlsbad
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: |
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RUMPSHAKER, ridiculous. I've seen guys do trantrums that can't even jump the wake toeside.
You have to be well-rounded with control of the board - regular & switch - the be considered good. Being able to do one trick doesn't make you good. |
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Medina Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1269 City: Netherlands
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| dalderman wrote: | RUMPSHAKER, ridiculous. I've seen guys do trantrums that can't even jump the wake toeside.
You have to be well-rounded with control of the board - regular & switch - the be considered good. Being able to do one trick doesn't make you good. |
True, at the cable we see that problem alot... Guys who are doing raleys after one week and continue to do this but witouth proper edge control. They cant even do a round switch, not to talk about switch raley... _________________
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sirPARTYman Outlaw


Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 188 City: Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| dalderman wrote: | RUMPSHAKER, ridiculous. I've seen guys do trantrums that can't even jump the wake toeside.
You have to be well-rounded with control of the board - regular & switch - the be considered good. Being able to do one trick doesn't make you good. |
Thats why i liked what STEPHAN said he summed it up.I said.. ...PERSONALLY (my opinion But yeah u gotta have the other basics locked aswell not just a 1 trick guy.As for the jumping the wake toeside ive seen some sick riderz that i would put in the very good catagory that are hs heroes  _________________ A day not wasted is a day waisted... |
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SexyWS6Mama Outlaw


Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 150 City: Killeen
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Posted: Nov 20, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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I believe you can be good in different levels. Becoming good/great/amazing takes time;so I may be good as immediate rider but as I improve I can become a bad ass advanced rider. Only in my opinion, good to me is someone that progresses in a quick manner, has correct technique, has style and can overall nail everything in their current level.
I know personally I would feel better if I could nail 360's and a backroll to be GREAT!  |
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crashhappy Outlaw

Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 116 City: Acworth
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Posted: Nov 24, 2009 2:07 am Post subject: |
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I crash "good"........that's what my friends tell me When it comes to riding I think I'm FN horible and chances are I won't ever be "good" but I can't get enough of it! _________________ RIP Jarred Welch- You will be missed
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LakeIolaLuke Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3064 City: Lake Iola/Orlando
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Posted: Nov 25, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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SexyWS6Mama, you should post some riding pics. and then some not riding pics  _________________
| buckthis wrote: | | And another reason wakeboarding is better than surfing, you die less, that means you have another day to wakeboard, which is more fun than surfing anyway. |
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Medina Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1269 City: Netherlands
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Posted: Nov 25, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| LakeIolaLuke wrote: | SexyWS6Mama, you should post some riding pics. and then some not riding pics  |
Me here, is still waiting for pictures... _________________
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Northeast Criminal

Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 78
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Posted: Nov 28, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I thought "good at wakeboarding" meant someone spent lots of cash on equipment. Doesn't that count?  |
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