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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Are you "good" at wakeboarding? Reply with quote

Just curious at what point do you consider yourself good at wakeboarding?
Or do you consider others "good" at wakeboarding....
Is there like a certain number of tricks you or someone can do that makes them good? I know theres no set definition of "good" and that changes for everybody so thats why I'm asking for everybody's definition of "good".

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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont consider myself "good" because i cant w2w yet, but i consider my friends good cause they can. its all just preference
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i agree, thats why i'm asking, just to get a scope of what people think is good.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think beeing good is making wakeboaridng look easy. Doing tricks with ease.
I considered myself good before subscribing to this forum.

But i realized that the guys around here can do raleys, 540s and flips. I can't do that stuff.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who throw backrolls and tantrums are "good" at wakeboarding... everything else is just icing on the cake.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on how they look when they ride and now comfortable they are on the water and in the air. I know a lot of good wakeboarders that can just to basic 180s, grabs, and TS jumps. I also know a lot of bad wakeboarders that can do tantrums, back rolls and 360s.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It all depends on how they look when they ride and now comfortable they are on the water and in the air. I know a lot of good wakeboarders that can just to basic 180s, grabs, and TS jumps. I also know a lot of bad wakeboarders that can do tantrums, back rolls and 360s.

well said. it's rare that someone makes it look easy, it takes a lot of time on the water to make it look effortless.. unless you're a natural Birthday Crazy Eyes (not me)
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that someone who qualifies as good is someone who has a wide array of abilities on their boards. Like, anything they try, even if it's kinda new, is as natural to them as if they tried to do something on land on their feet. W2W stuff, buttering around, goofing around, jumping over stuff, saving themselves from silly falls in unexpected ways... you get the idea I think. All of this is always accompanied by making whatever they do look significantly like some type of style or another. I dunno, it's pretty subjective as has been said, but I think this is a definition that can be applied to any type of rider.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NorthwestRider wrote:
It all depends on how they look when they ride and now comfortable they are on the water and in the air. I know a lot of good wakeboarders that can just to basic 180s, grabs, and TS jumps. I also know a lot of bad wakeboarders that can do tantrums, back rolls and 360s.


yeah, exactly.

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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about how to define "good." Most people have a pretty varied version of that. I will say I felt like a legitimate wakeboarder when I could land my first invert regularly. When people find out you wakeboard that's usually the first (or second) question they ask.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad, agreed.

I think to the average person, someone who can go W2W both ways and do grabs, 180's and an invert or two would qualify as "good". Some people can get to this point in a season for some it takes years. "Good" is really relative to your abilities and knowledge of the sport so it's totally open to interpertation.

But if you were to take a group of noobs out and do a Tantrum, I would bet if you asked all of the noobs, they's say that rider was good.

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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. The main point for me is to have fun. As has been said I know plenty of people who can do big air tricks, but suck at simple surface tricks and vice versa. I think it's how competent you are at the things that you can do.

I got emailed some interesting training logs recently, that coaches and judges use to define Novice, Intermediate and Advanced. Basically it breaks it down into basics and tricks per category.

If anyone would like a copy, PM me your email and would be happy to pass them on. I find it really useful as you can track your progess and it puts what you should be achieving into some sort of order, so that you don't try to run before you can crawl as it were.

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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakebrad wrote:
I'm not sure about how to define "good." Most people have a pretty varied version of that. I will say I felt like a legitimate wakeboarder when I could land my first invert regularly. When people find out you wakeboard that's usually the first (or second) question they ask.


For sure. That bugged the hell out of me when people would ask,"oh you wakeboard? can you do all those flips and things?" Because I would have to say no. They dont care about sw and reg 3's or toe back ones or anything. about two years ago i was able to say "yes i can" and really impress everybody hahaha. not saying this make you good, just saying it is kind of funny
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone can do a double s bend to blind, but thats the only trick he can, is he considerd good?

Well, a good wakeboarder, i think all wakeboarders are good, alsong as you stay on the board youre a wakeboard and youre doing well...

As for style, thats something different, i dont think good has anything to do with tricks, but with style...

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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you get to wakeboard? "GOOD" That's all that matters! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I would consider myself "good" at it. Not that my bag of tricks is very deep, but everything just kind of came natural to me. I get into a zone where everything just flows, I don't even think about what trick I'm gonna do till I do it. Last time out I got about 3/4 rotation on a back roll without even thinking or trying to do it Very Happy it was such a rush, the feeling of being upside down, then blam face first into the water. Wish I would have had time for a few more sets to actually try it a couple more times. Oh well, I'll get it next year.
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leviwynnyk-Great point didn't even think about the knowledge part of it.

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Sweet! I tore my ACL setp 9th this year doing a tantrum---and i landed it... go figure.
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overall i would not consider myself good, but among the poeple I ride with, and the other people I see at the lake riding I would consider myself good. My friends would say I'm good because I can do a backroll, and try a lot of other things.
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well same here, i can do backroll frontflips and alot more, but i aint that good. I havent got style... well, nick davies is good.

Jeaah those inverts are indeed not good for your knees, i feel differences between prewakeboard, and now...

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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but I like to pretend Laughing
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me a good wakeboarder is one who progresses. If I am not progressing I consider my riding for that particular amount of time "not good." Someone who goes out and throws down the same run that looks the same as they did the last 20 times they were out is not riding "good" to me.
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good wakeboarding is done by someone who wakeboards for their own enjoyment, not for a bag of tricks, not for chicks, not for accolades. Its about getting on the water and letting yourself go. For some that may mean buttering around, for another its stomping a new trick. If you are having fun then you are "good", don't change a thing.
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beretta5spd, Stephan, Well said by both of you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Nov 17, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the comments have been very insightful.
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PostPosted: Nov 18, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephan wrote:
Good wakeboarding is done by someone who wakeboards for their own enjoyment, not for a bag of tricks, not for chicks, not for accolades. Its about getting on the water and letting yourself go. For some that may mean buttering around, for another its stomping a new trick. If you are having fun then you are "good", don't change a thing.


Cool well said....but personally I feel your not a wakeboarder until you can ride away from a tantrum Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Nov 18, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RUMPSHAKER, ridiculous. I've seen guys do trantrums that can't even jump the wake toeside.
You have to be well-rounded with control of the board - regular & switch - the be considered good. Being able to do one trick doesn't make you good.
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PostPosted: Nov 18, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RUMPSHAKER, ridiculous. I've seen guys do trantrums that can't even jump the wake toeside.
You have to be well-rounded with control of the board - regular & switch - the be considered good. Being able to do one trick doesn't make you good.


True, at the cable we see that problem alot... Guys who are doing raleys after one week and continue to do this but witouth proper edge control. They cant even do a round switch, not to talk about switch raley...

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dalderman wrote:
RUMPSHAKER, ridiculous. I've seen guys do trantrums that can't even jump the wake toeside.
You have to be well-rounded with control of the board - regular & switch - the be considered good. Being able to do one trick doesn't make you good.


Thats why i liked what STEPHAN said he summed it up.I said.. ...PERSONALLY (my opinion Shocked But yeah u gotta have the other basics locked aswell not just a 1 trick guy.As for the jumping the wake toeside ive seen some sick riderz that i would put in the very good catagory that are hs heroes Wink

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PostPosted: Nov 20, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you can be good in different levels. Becoming good/great/amazing takes time;so I may be good as immediate rider but as I improve I can become a bad ass advanced rider. Only in my opinion, good to me is someone that progresses in a quick manner, has correct technique, has style and can overall nail everything in their current level.

I know personally I would feel better if I could nail 360's and a backroll to be GREAT! Smile
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I crash "good"........that's what my friends tell me Smile When it comes to riding I think I'm FN horible and chances are I won't ever be "good" but I can't get enough of it!
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SexyWS6Mama, you should post some riding pics. and then some not riding pics Laughing
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LakeIolaLuke wrote:
SexyWS6Mama, you should post some riding pics. and then some not riding pics Laughing


Me here, is still waiting for pictures...

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I thought "good at wakeboarding" meant someone spent lots of cash on equipment. Doesn't that count? Smile
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