Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Oct 24, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject: **26ft Up -> Flat Slider** Floating on 15' Larson
So! It's fall now and I've finally started my slider build. It's a floating slider on an old 15' Larson Shell.
I started the frame using steel square tubing by cutting and welding it into the A-Frame shape. That is then mounted inside the boat and covered with 3/4" plywood. I angle out the sides by framing in 2x4's and sheet that aswell. Once everything is sheeted i then sand and seal the cracks with Silicone sealant. After sealant is dry sand everything smooth again and paint with Weatherproof Acrylic-Latex outdoor pain.
The entire rail will be 26ft long and is too long to trailer. Therefor i've hinged just over 2 feet of the slider so it can be flipped up for transport. And the front clears the tailgate without any problems.
Cost so far:
$250 For boat and trailer
$250 for lumber, screws, sheeting and paint.
Total: $500
Materials
- 1/8" Steel Angle Iron
- 1/8" Square Tubing
- 3/4" Plywood
- A sufficient amount of lumber
- PVC Sheating 26 Linnear ft x 9.5"w
- A gangster 15' Larson Hull w/ Trailer
- Weatherproof Decking screws
- Silicone Sealant
- Primer/Sealant Weatherproof paint. 1gal
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: A boat!
I was scanning my local classifieds today and found this old fiberglass boat hull for $50 !!! Here's a link to the add. Tell me what you think, has anyone attemted this before with this kind of a boat??
Here is our ghetto fabulous glastron kicker\slider combo project from 3 or 4 years ago. First pic is finished product, second is how we bought it for $50: _________________ Wake up and Ride!
It is totally doable. Use a reciprocating saw to cut out the windshield area, build the frame, plywood the sides so you don't kill yourself, then put down your sliding surface. Hardest part for us was anchoring it down good enough so it didn't sail away.....it was a bit tall. _________________ Wake up and Ride!
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:
Right on dude. Thats an epic kicker/slider! That thing is Super tall.. How stable was your rig in the water? Did it seem to be very tippy? Did you need to add any additional weight in the boat to stabalize it?
Thanks, i feel more comfortable buying this boat now. Only problem is that it doesnt come with a trailer wich SUCKS!
BTW does anyone know how much TREX planks would cost from home depot? This sh*ts gotta be tiightttt lol
Right on dude. Thats an epic kicker/slider! That thing is Super tall.. How stable was your rig in the water? Did it seem to be very tippy? Did you need to add any additional weight in the boat to stabalize it?
Thanks, i feel more comfortable buying this boat now. Only problem is that it doesnt come with a trailer wich SUCKS!
BTW does anyone know how much TREX planks would cost from home depot? This sh*ts gotta be tiightttt lol
All the lumber that made up the ramp structure made it pretty darn heavy. All that weight made it really stable. No extra weight needed. I'll have to see if I can dig up the videos of us hitting it.
Definitely going to need a boat or flat bed trailer if your rail needs to be portable. Laws of body of water causing you to go the floating route?
TREX planks are pricey. I just built a portable incline rail last weekend and bought some. The trim boards which are the perfect width in my opinion are $42 each for a 12 foot section at Lowes. With the trim boards you only need one since they are super wide. If you go with the 2 x 4 size, they are $21 each and you would need two of them anyway. Plus they are thicker so they weigh more. Trim board is the way to go.
Here is a pic of one of the two rail sections out of the water.
Other pic is of my buddy riding it after we put two 12 foot sections together. You can see how the width of the trim board is just right. _________________ Wake up and Ride!
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Oct 28, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: My New Vessel
A friend of mine just happen to have this beautiful 15' Larson & Trailer Combo so i had to buy it from him. Got a reasonable deal for $200. CHECK IT OUT
Everything is coming together beautifully. But I'm off to vegas for a week leaving monday so won't be another week until i finnish this monster.
I'm thinking i'll put my 450lb fat sac in the floor and fill it until it sits nice and low. Seeing as i won't need it next season with the 09 wakesetter lsv. here's a little video (poor quality)....
Last edited by curtblanchette on Oct 29, 2009 11:11 pm; edited 1 time in total
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 4:27 am Post subject: Re: My New Vessel
curtblanchette wrote:
A friend of mine just happen to have this beautiful 15' Larson & Trailer Combo so i had to buy it from him. Got a reasonable deal for $200. CHECK IT OUT
Everything is coming together beautifully. But I'm off to vegas for a week leaving monday so won't be another week until i finnish this monster.
I'm thinking i'll put my 450lb fat sac in the floor and fill it until it sits nice and low. Seeing as i won't need it next season with the 09 wakesetter lsv. here's a little video (poor quality)....
Slider is looking good man. Make sure you plywood the sides so you don't break something. _________________ Wake up and Ride!
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: Back from vegas, went straight to Home depot!
we braught the bare bones down to the launch to test everything and get some measurements . Heres a shot
After bringing it back to the house i've mounted the steel frame inside the boat by framing up inside the hull and screwing it all together.
After this I layed 3' 2x4's on either side, and sunk them into the boat trim using an angle grinder and cut some fiberglass out just enough for it to be flush. Sheeted with 3/4' ply wood this thing is very solid.
Not long now i'll have it ready for paint! I baught a $50 gallon of white primer/sealant latex paint. a good friend of mine is an amazing spray artist is going to finnish it up. Cant wait for those pics
Looking really good man. Going to be a nice hit. Keep the pics coming.
Here is my latest: 36 foot incline pulled via winch with an exit ramp onto a landing area. Winches really open up the possibilities! _________________ Wake up and Ride!
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Nov 20, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject:
texaswakerep, Nice incline that thing looks fun as hell. I've got the whole boat sheeted now. i'm going to start sealing the gaps between the plywood with 502-LSW self leveling sealant to keep moisture and water out. I then need to sand everything afterwards before paint. It's just too cold to be painting here in BC right now. I'll need to see if i can fit this in my garage.
Is that PVC sheeting you've mounted on there? I'm thinking of just laying a 2x6 down the center of my slider and screwing pvc sheating onto that, so it's got that solid wood feel to it. Either that or is there a dense solid wood i could use that will slide and won't ding and dent too bad?
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject:
the hinges will be out of the water and covered by a wood 2x10 which will then have PVC sheeting on top. That steel tubing isn't what we'll be sliding on. The joint section is out of the water by at least 6 inches. That's why it extends, so you get that end lower in the water.
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Dec 02, 2009 11:27 am Post subject:
So here you can see it with the full surface attached (without pvc plastic yet). Its 10ft up to 16ft flat with 9.5" wide surface. I still have to close in the stern but it's getting cold as you can see.
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Dec 02, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject:
By adding some bolts to the 10ft slide surface, I can detach it from the frame and flip up the tail for trailering. This way i also don't need to worry about supporting the tail when in use because the 2x10 surface is holding it up in place when bolted.
your slider project is really interesting. it seems like you have put a lot of hard work, effort and planning into its development. can't wait to see the vids when you get to hit it. nice work so far
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Dec 04, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject:
thanks mgs917, I appreciate your interest. Were goin to have a little rail jam here with a friend of mine from www.DiveZero.com video magazine and get some real good shots. But summer's still a longways away. Thanks again for the support
your slider project is really interesting. it seems like you have put a lot of hard work, effort and planning into its development. can't wait to see the vids when you get to hit it. nice work so far
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 89 City: Sønderborg Denmark
Posted: Jan 18, 2010 5:34 am Post subject:
Just want to say thanks for the inspiration, have started a similar project myself. and found you solution to be the best combo of easy to build, while on a budget.
building it out of old discarded wood and scrap metal.
Pics coming as soon as i find a way to kompress my pictures to 256 kb.
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 163 City: Kelowna, British Columbia
Posted: Jan 18, 2010 8:42 am Post subject:
wakemads wrote:
Just want to say thanks for the inspiration, have started a similar project myself. and found you solution to be the best combo of easy to build, while on a budget.
building it out of old discarded wood and scrap metal.
Pics coming as soon as i find a way to kompress my pictures to 256 kb.
Pictures are in my gallery
Right on Wakemads! That thing is looking great man. Keep up the good work. If you have any questions at all just send me a PM and i'll be sure to help.
It's looking solid. Have you got a trailer for it yet?
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 89 City: Sønderborg Denmark
Posted: Jan 19, 2010 12:14 am Post subject:
No trailer. don´t need one.
Put in the water and tow it with our boat, to the anker place. then we will park it on our own privat beach if it needs to get out of the water.
The metal frame work is made out of 50x50 square metal tubing. "Will never Break" but might Rust eventually. It is gonna sit in Saltwater. so it will get a proper paint job.
Calculated the weight for the complete frame to be 120 kg for the metal and approx. 150 kg for the wood. might need a float under the ramp going up, to keep it stable.
The boat is rated to hold 450 KG afloat. have double check this claim with my own calculations. And the rating is a bit conservative its more like 600kg.
It is a little bit complicated when you make drawings etc. But hey get to use all the math you thought you would never use when you learned it in High school.
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 89 City: Sønderborg Denmark
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject:
finished the frame
still to do.
1) attach the slide tubes. found some carpet plastic tubes. in 4 meter lengths. Payed 1,5 USD per meter. bought 16 meters. two tubes next to each other. diameter pr tube is 10.5 cm.
2) paint the hole thing, metal etc, to give it some protection against the elements.
3) build a frame for the sides, and attach sides.
4) hoping the snow goes away, and the summer and season can begin,can`t wait
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You cannot attach files in this forum You cannot download files in this forum