Posted: Jun 06, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: Awesome winching idea
Ok so today while i was mowing my yard i had a great idea. If i took the blade off my push mower, tied a rope to the spinning thing and anchored my mower to the ground... i would have a very portable winch!
what do you guys think? _________________ Lake Shelbyville, IL
Last edited by brichter14 on Jun 06, 2009 11:42 am; edited 1 time in total
what hp is it? 1/2? i think you need 3 or 4 to use it for a winch. I also think you need something with a much wider spool, and something that would spool the line horizontally instead of vertically, and probably several other things. I think you'd be disappointed. There are some for sale in the classifieds...
my boss has a 6hp push mower, mine is a 4hp, i think ima try to buy one from my gearhead neighbor, try to get a 6hp, i was gonna put a spool where the blade is, i think i know how i will do it
also i wasnt planning on having it pull anybody out of the water, just pull a person while they are standing like a dock start.
i think the biggest problem i will have is anchoring it to the ground... _________________ Lake Shelbyville, IL
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Posted: Jun 06, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject:
brichter14, there is so much more to consider than just anchoring it to the ground. Winches have clutches and drive ratios and blah blah blah. Good luck though. Sirius. _________________ Hilton Head Wake Sports.com
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Posted: Jun 07, 2009 2:55 am Post subject:
haha man don't do it.... all ull end up with is a broken lawn mower....
first even thou it has the torque to spin like 4 mower blades that wuld weigh like ten pounds its not going 2 pull sum1 who weighs like 170 pounds across water. secondly u need a horizontal shaft engine.... lawn mowers are vertical, they are ment 2 face down for a reason lol and thirdly there is no gearing or clutch so the blades spin even wen its on very low revs which wuld just be a pain in the a$$ with the rope. I culd go on foreva but I think you get the point lol..... if ur gonna make a winch do it right n ull save urself so many head aches _________________ -=BrEnDo=-
secondly u need a horizontal shaft engine.... lawn mowers are vertical, they are ment 2 face down for a reason
I can attest to this... When I was in middle school me and one of my friends found an old lawn mower with a sign that said "free" while walking home from school one day. We of course took it and tried to do the only logical thing, convert it to a go-kart. We got the engine running no problem while it was vertical, but the second we tipped it on it's side it sputtered and died. Thinking back, we might have just needed to relocate and tilt the gas tank, but who knows.
We did get the thing working, it was a 3hp motor and we had to push it to get it moving, but once it was moving it worked just fine... our solution to the whole vertical engine horizontal driveshaft thing was to use a serpentine belt that was twisted, and that thing burned up belts like a mofo (probably went through a belt every 45 minutes to an hour).
Anyways, the moral of the story is that unless your talking about totally free parts you should just buy a motor that was intended for the use you are expecting.
Ive been thinking about getting an extra wheel for my car, attatching a cable to it, then jack up the rear of my truck and putting the wheel with the cable on it, then the cable could spool around the wheel. That should have enough power. Might have to cut a hole in my bumper so the cable could feed straight in though.
kent2010, I have heard of people winching duellies like this. Basically they take a spare beater rim. If they get stuck they take off one of the outer tires and bolt on the spare rim and use it like a winch. I have never seen this, only heard about it so who knows?
lol that reminds me of my childhood, my dad had a log splitter like that a HUGE 8" metal spiral spike that attached to your vehicle. he'd remove the rear wheel of his old chevy pickup and you bolt this death spike and and put the truck in drive with the other wheel off the ground.
then shove the wood into it and it would anialaite it like some kind of demolition fighting robot. looking back now it seems really unsafe.....
worked great though!
like this but welded to an old steel wheel and bolted to his truck
Thats not the problem. The problem is that the more rope you pull in, the faster the line speed will go. Also you need a car without posi traction. That way you can have one tire on the ground. Or else the other wheel would just spin the opposite way and the one with the cable attatched wont move.
you'd have to spool up a lot of rope before you would get much of a speed increase. it would work better than your drunk buddy at the pedal.
the posi traction issue is defiantly an issue. while i dont think cars actually have posi, their diffs are lubricated well enough to handle a full ratio of slip. also it would take a skilled person not to suck the rope handle under the car or some other unforseen catastrophe.
not that i want to discourage anybody from trying, videoing and ultimately sharing their experience doing this. i got a laf
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