'That's exactly correct'

Faust · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1496

Is this phrase grammatically correct? The new guy around here uses it seriously all the time and I'm going insane.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

Not really. correct implies 100% accuracy in and of itself, right?

Broccoli B · Posted: May 28, 2009 6:44 am Post subject:

it is grammatically correct, but it is redundent.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

I agree. Not only is it redundant, but it says the same thing two different ways in a row.

Hollywood · Posted: May 28, 2009 7:22 am Post subject:

edrex · Posted: May 28, 2009 7:37 am Post subject:

Faust · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1496

lol

One of the best detentions I got in high school... the teacher was talking about redundancy and I kept asking her to repeat herself and re-explain.... took her about 10 minutes to figure out what was going on... Laughing

bonsaitree · Outlaw Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 198

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

no, wait, that's not true. Accuracy is when each dart hits the same spot, though it might not be the bullseye. Precision is when they all hit the intended bullseye. i think. I just wrote somethign on this last month for work, and I already forgot it...

microman · Posted: May 28, 2009 11:28 am Post subject:

edrex · Posted: May 28, 2009 11:28 am Post subject:

bonsaitree, I looked up both definitions and neither one said anything about darts. Weird. Rolling Eyes

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

yea, that was it. i was writing about blood analyzer results when plotted on a chart to determine accuracy and precision. Lots of dots tight together, regardless of where they were, were an example of highly precise results, and results closest to the target value, but not tightly grouped, were more accurate. I think. It's all a blur.

edrex · Posted: May 28, 2009 11:33 am Post subject:

cameraboy, can you state that in terms of darts please? I need to know how to average a bullseye.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

pet575 · Posted: May 28, 2009 11:48 am Post subject:

"They were there for the whole entire day."

"Whole entire" is one of my wife's favorites. She's a moron. So I tell her I'll give her the whole entire thing if she's a good girl.

Hollywood · Posted: May 28, 2009 11:55 am Post subject:

edrex · Posted: May 28, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject:

cameraboy, so if I throw darts consistently poorly and they all land 2 feet under the dart board you would still say I am being precise? And if I am throwing for a double 20 and land near the bullseye I'm being accurate?

Anyway,
Accurate:
free from error or defect; consistent with a standard, rule, or model; precise; exact.

Precise:
Clearly expressed or delineated; definite: The victim gave a precise description of the suspect.
Exact, as in performance, execution, or amount; accurate or correct

STPHNSN23 · Guest

think of it like a number line. 1.00002 is very precise, but if i'm aiming for 2, 1.99 is more accurate than 1.96....both have the same level of precision.

ky1e · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 2693

I don't know about this one because something can be "partially correct" so therefore something can be "exactly correct" just like something else can be "almost correct". Partially and Exactly would be adverbs in this case. It's like in calculus class when you get the exact answer out of your calculator and just write down that as your answer and it is correct, but you get points off because you didn't prove how you got there with work. i don't know, it's all malarche too me. Laughing

Broccoli B · Posted: May 29, 2009 8:31 am Post subject:

"almost correct" is the same as "incorrect" though.

eeven73 · Posted: May 29, 2009 8:57 am Post subject:

what about "spot-on"vs."dead-on balls accurate"?