budget crossover boat

[guitarist35jc]

hello; new here, this is my first post on the board. I've tried searching this board as well as many others, and while I have found a lot of useful information, I have not found a direct answer to some of my questions. so... I've finally decided to ask. Any help is much appreciated

With a sub $10 000 budget, what is a good crossover boat for competition slalom wakes but also an intermediate wakeboard wake? I know that the SN2001 models throw a nice wake but haven't heard much good about their slalom wakes compared to mastercrafts, malibu's and supras of that era.

Would an I/O even be worth considering? would the wakeboarding wake of an old ski boat that most would consider to be "no good" for boarders still be better than a small I/O? (i.e. an old mastercraft tristar, ps190, supra ts6m, or malibu skier series/ euro series )

I guess in short, if you could answer this question: Equal time is spent wakeboarding and slalom skiing, and money for a boat is tight. Should we go I/O or an old ski boat? If a ski boat, what are some recommendations

[Wakebrad]

You've got some tough requirements in there for a budget of $10k.

To answer your question, I don't know of one specifically for that price range. If you are skiing and wakeboarding at the same time (switching sets) a malibu with a wedge would be the way to go. Rather than filling/emptying sacks, you could just move the wedge to make the wake better. But I don't think there are any Malibus with wedges for less than $10k.

Basically, any boat with ballast is going to have a crappy ski wake and any boat without ballast is going to have a crappy wakeboard wake.

To elaborate, the usual culprits in that price range are the Nautique 2001 which doesn't have a great ski wake or the MasterCraft PS190 which doesn't have a great wakeboard wake. There is the Malibu skier which doesn't have a great wakeboard wake. I don't know if you can find a Malibu Sunsetter for under $10k and I don't know how good either wake is. The other options would be Supra and while I don't know about their ski wakes they have some decent wakeboard wakes. Maybe someone else can chime in.

I would normally never recommend an i/o but this might be a case. I don't know about great ski wakes, but you would be able to lower and raise the prop to adjust the wake. The bad part is keeping a consistent speed is difficult in an i/o.

[Commodore]

Supra Mariah. Put a tower or pole in it. Fill some fat sacs for wakeboarding, and then enjoy the flat wake for slaloming. It's very roomy, and comfortable. It's more of a slalom boat than wakeboarding. You would have to carry ballast bags for wakeboarding. But when weighted it does provide a decent, but sharp wake.

Here's one here for $9k.

http://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/1132338545.html

I wouldn't go I/O for a slalom boat. You just won't get the out of the hole pull like you would a true ski boat. The big question, is which is more important, slaloming or wakeboarding. That will help gauge the answers.

Some boats are great slalom boats and can be used for wakeboarding, but aren't great for it. And vice versa.

[Commodore]

Nice Mastercraft.

http://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/1102972791.html

[Wakebrad]

haugy, yeah, Supra was the only option I was thinking for an inboard. CraigsList is blocked from my work, which MC is that?

[Commodore]

Wakebrad,

[guitarist35jc]

thanks guys,
size is also a bit of a concern as far as storage goes, and draft as well since there is no deep water dock available (only a couple feet of water at the mooring location) ...how much deeper does a mariah or a sunsport sit than a comp?

is the conbrio the same boat as the comp, just with an open bow? if so, wouldn't this cause some concern since the bow dips so low to the water? i would think that the bow of the conbrios would be suceptible to rot and soft spots if it had been dipped more than a few times since they used a wood floor.

would the comp offer a decent wake for beginner to intermediate riders if it were weghted properly? would it be worth upgrading to from an I/O?

I know that the boat I'm searching for might not exist yet..picky, eh?

[Wakebrad]

Yeah, I'm not familiar with the Tristar at all. Looks like a nice one though. Sounds like those are better options than an i/o.

[Commodore]

guitarist35jc, I love talking about Supras.

The Mariah has the same draft as the Comp, but has a higher freeboard. Meaning it sits as low in the water, but is taller above the waterline. The Mariah is also longer.

The Comp and Conbrio are twins, except for the open bow. The bows on the Conbrio and Mariah are structured with fiberglass and wood. Fiberglass seating areas, with wood structure supports. So yes, rot is a possibility. Those low bows on the Comp and Conbrio are very succeptable to wakes. Drive carefully and you can pretty much dodge them.

As for wake, it can give you a good beginner wake, and that's about it. It sits so low to the water, you can't weight them much. That's why I suggested the Mariah.

As for worth going from I/O to one. Well it depends, do you like the performance of your I/O? The biggest difference will be in the driving style and ride, and the slalom performance. The wakeboarding performance will be slightly better with a good clean wake. But the biggest thing you will notice is the slalom ability of the true Skiboat vs. I/O. The power and torque of these things is amazing if you're used to I/O. They will pop you right up on the water in seconds.

Wakebrad yeah for an all around boat, the TriStars not bad. Better than an I/O. Roomy, not expensive. Just a good skiboat.

[Hollywood]

Forget the I/O. You are talking watersports (boarding, skiing whatever) not cruising up the river/lake to the bar.

The boat is going to test your abilities whether on the ski or board since you're going for a "crossover". This is a good thing.

That Supra haugy listed looks very nice. The TriStar will have a tiny w/b wake and not much interior room to weigh it down. What part of the country you are in will determine what is readily available.

[Wazzy]

I'd sell my Supra Comp for $10k, but I am not ready to sell it yet... My buddy has the following for sale though.....
>> It is a 1987 barefoot nautique. It has the 350 chevey in it instead of the
454. 1100 hrs. very dependable though. always starts and runs great. Rebuilt
trans about 15 hour ago which cost just over a grand. It has some blistering on
the hull and has some spots where it must have hit the dock. Interior is in
good condition. Solid floor and seats are in ok shape. needs a good bath. it
sits on a tandem trailer that is not for the boat. The trailer can be easily
adjusted for the boat, I never did it because it sat on my lift covered by a
canapy all the time. comes with an extended pylon. Wake is very respectable.
Doesn't look like it is going to work very well but it is a typical Nautique
very stiff. All in all it is a very good wakeboard boat. I've used it the last
three years.let me know if you are interested. I live in the rockford area.
you can email or call

Jared
8155059883
ruper6126@charter.net<<

[kartman]

hey wazzy, any pics of the boat?