TS W2W Help!! With Video

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

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Can't get that last foot! Being pulled at 21, no desire to speed the boat up. I want to hit it at the current speed.

Lean harder? Body position? Am I not committing?

Thanks!

Dusty

bass69 · Addict Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 529

not edging hard enough

vette74 · Posted: Oct 08, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject:

Bending over at the waist when you hit the wake. Keep you hips up.

Aussie boarder; · Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2008 Posts: 11 City: Adelaide

cut out further, then cut in harder. Vetter74 said it. keep upright. Ive been trying the same thing, pretty much exactly the same as that. i kept either falling backwards, or, clipping an edge.
keep youre weight centered i think. it might give you more balance if you do it with only one hand, that worked for me, otherwise, in the begining, it crumples you into a bit of a ball, sort of. lookin good tho Very Happy

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

Thanks for the tips guys. I definitely see I could cut out further and cut in harder.

I'm not seeing where my hips are down. I'm trying to make sure my knees don't absorb any pop. Is my body position or posture wrong?

TP83 · Addict Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 739 City: Woodside

i just looks like your not going out far enough and your edge looks really light so pretty much what everyone has already stated. when i was learning it i was told to cut out as far as i could before starting my edge in.

vette74 · Posted: Oct 08, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject:

Look back at your video you should not bend over at the waist when you go up the wake. Because of this you are compressing at the waist and it is absorbing all your pop. If you measure the distance between your shoulders and your knees at the bottom of the wake it is a lot less at the top of the wake.

If you fix this and cut a little harder you will have it. Nice job.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

Got it vette74. Will try that this weekend.

Thanks everyone!

Aussie boarder; · Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 2008 Posts: 11 City: Adelaide

pretty much as every one else has said. when you go out try:

- cutting out further, and cutting in a bit harder

- keeping youre centre of balance

-maybe try with one hand

other than that, youre almost there, soo close.
with a bigger cut, you'll get it, easy
what line length are you running by the way? Smile

pet575 · Posted: Oct 09, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:

I don't know that you need to cut out any further, you just need to edge harder on the way in.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

STANG KILLA SS · Posted: Oct 09, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject:

your not stiffening your REAR leg. loosing alot of pop there. thats also why your nose rises at times. fronts getting pop, rear isnt. i noticed it afte the first jump cause i struggled with it myself until some pointed it out to me. id also say a harder cut and push your chest out, and handle down when you pop.

kent2010 · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 281 City: Needles

Ya, STANG KILLA SS has it right. keep that back leg straight long with your back. you wanna have more weight on your back leg than your front leg. and if you find yourself sliding out on your heels on your landing, grab indy to keep you over your board.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

All this helps so much! I wish I had more advanced riders on my boat to learn from. Unfortunately I'm the best rider on my boat by far. Not because I'm so awesome because clearly I'm not, I just have more board time than everyone else.

Figuring everything out for yourself is a slow and long process, even more so when you just can't figure it out. I had no idea more weight goes on my rear leg, for example. Now it makes perfect sense. I'm going to stomp it this weekend thanks to ya'll!

Things like this help from you guys make this forum invaluable.

Thanks!

Dusty

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone. After taking in all your advise and working today on fixing all the issues, it really paid off. At the end of the day I hit 4 TS W2W back to back! Even threw in a quick Indy on one of them, although not with a lot of style yet LOL.

I would not have cleared the wake this weekend without all the great advice you guys gave.

Thanks again!!

Dusty

TP83 · Addict Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 739 City: Woodside

congrats, on clearing the wake doesn't it feel so much better on the knees? might have just been me coming off a broken leg but it was good motovation to go all or none. and now the ts fs 180s are gonna come fast.

JeffreyCH · Posted: Oct 13, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject:

Congrats on getting it, aqnd have to agree this forum is priceless. Oh and that last bail in your vid was sweet, nice faceplant Twisted Evil

Medina · Posted: Oct 14, 2008 1:00 am Post subject:

Your video really made me laugh, its so funny to see people fall Very Happy

I cant give you any tips because i cant even get that high in the air Razz

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

hco · Posted: Oct 16, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject:

Hey Dusty, what lake do you usually ride on?

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

hco · Posted: Oct 16, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:

Oh, that would explain why I didn't know about your MC dealership, there is a bridgeport in CT too, so I thought you might be kind of local to me.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

dalderman · Soul Rider Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 356 City: Carlsbad

Congrats Dusty! I'm right there with you. This site and it's members have been really helpful on my progression as well.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

I have to share some more. Not only are my TS W2W very solid and consisten with good air, but... This weekend I tried my first ever TS W2W 180. Not only did I land it but I landed it on the very first attempt. My HS W2W 180's also came today, although later in the day and not as pretty or consistent yet.

So once again thanks to everyone's help here! I likely still wouldn't be hitting TS W2W much less 180's. It feels awesome!! Smile

Dusty

hco · Posted: Nov 02, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject:

You should be able to grab your TS w2w 180's right away, its easy to do, easy to grab for the whole spin, and looks sweet. Next up is switch hs w2w & 180s, I found it easier to do switch hs w2w 180s before I got comfortable enough with my switch to land hs w2w switch.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

hco · Posted: Nov 02, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject:

I ride regular, so going into the wake toeside I keep the rope in my right hand, and then just grab indy (I think? I dont really know the technicaities of grabs), try to poke it out, and make sure im grabbing for the whole 180.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

Check THIS LINK.

I have found this the most plain and simply way to know exactly what each grab is. Its set up for regular riders like yourself.

hco · Posted: Nov 02, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject:

Gotcha, on my TS grabbed 180's I grab slob.

wakedork · Posted: Dec 05, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

Ok gotta disagree with the whole keep your rear leg straight and put all your weight on it, yea it will get you across the wake but your gonna have problems progressing past that.

You need to put weight on your front foot and stick your chest out over the front of the board, and still edge in progressivly, when you leave the wake keeps both hands on the handle and give it a slight tug to your hip this will compensate your edge and keep you upright.

Putting all your weight on your rear foot will make the nose rise up and your letting go with your hand to compensate, when you go to do spins or inverts that require two hands you are going to be in trouble.

V8 Killer · Outlaw Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 207 City: Bridgeport

I'm able to get across now with my weight distributed pretty much however I please, based on what I'm going to attempt.

By the 2nd day of doing W2W TS I actually think its easier and takes less energy than W2W HS. I know the 180's are much easier starting TS, but that's b\c I have such trouble landing switch TS (on the HS 180's).

Regards,

Dusty