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andy mogg Criminal

Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 99 City: Kaiserslautern/Mosel, Germany
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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: ī96 Ford GT-40 with high idle........help!!!! |
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ī96 Ford GT-40 with high idle, need help finding problem
I have a problem with the idle in my 96 Sport Nautique. Hereīs what the problem is and what I have tried so far:
The problem started after the boat/motor being damp after some bad weather.(Donīt know if this has anything to do with the problem or not, just thought I should mention it) Took the boat out, and after the engine had been running for a while, the RPMīs went up to approx. 1800 when at idle. The condition got worse over a period of several months so that the engine would run at high RPMīs right after starting when the engine was cold. I have had the boat at 2 different mechanics that havenīt been able to find the problem. First they told me to replace the control unit, which didnīt help, and and we have also replaced the water temp switch and the water temp sender. Nothing has helped yet. Also, when the engine is running, if the water temp switch is removed or disconnected, the RPMīs will drop down to about 800, but not at a steady idle. (RPMīs rock back and forth slowly between 800 and 900)
Anyone ever have a similar problem or know where I should look next?
Thanks,
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JUST-IN-TIME Soul Rider

Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 356 City: ON YOUR BOAT
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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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is this FI or the crabed version?
might be iac valve _________________ HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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There was a "crabed" (sic) version of the GT40?
I thought the GT-40 (all of them) were TBI. _________________ wakeboards
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JUST-IN-TIME Soul Rider

Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 356 City: ON YOUR BOAT
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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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i have seen one GT-40 carbed
i think it stopped in 1996
has the power pack on it and sensors, kind of weird
remember a GT-40 is just a stroked 351 _________________ HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED
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scott a Ladies Man


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810
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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't stroke anything with crabs. Good luck with that. _________________ www.TheLiquidPlayground.com
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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JUST-IN-TIME, orly? The GT-40 is a stroker motor now?
Might want to double check on what the displacement is on that engine, because it is a 351. _________________ wakeboards
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JUST-IN-TIME Soul Rider

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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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sheet, man im typed all fuct up today, lol
i meant 302! _________________ HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED
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JUST-IN-TIME Soul Rider

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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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thanx for that! _________________ HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED
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K-dub Ladies Man

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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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DRAGON88, he IS the certified mechanic....he "should" know that the Windsor is a 351.
I think he's "Stroker-ing" you. |
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JUST-IN-TIME Soul Rider

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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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good one K-dub  _________________ HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately I never really worked on the GT-40 when we had the Sport Nautique, but I would think since it is TBI it would have an idle adjustment screw somewhere on the throttle body area. Might also want to check to make sure the throttle linkage is not getting bound up. _________________ wakeboards
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JUST-IN-TIME Soul Rider

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Posted: Sep 04, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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u can get the manual from planitnautque.com
they did make a carbed GT-40 motor, one guy on PN was just talking about it, then i remembered i worked on an old supra with it _________________ HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED
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bigkitch Outlaw


Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 161 City: Oakville
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Posted: Sep 16, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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andy mogg,
the reason you get the rough idle when you disconnect the water temp sensor is most likely because the computer recognizes a sensor missing, and goes into a default setting. But since the other sensors are still reading, the idle will not stay constant.
I think you need to double check the temp sensor and sending unit again. It just sounds like the engine wants to run at a 'cold startup' setting and start screwing with the air/fuel mix.
Since its TBI, DRAGON88 is right in that there should be an adjustment for the throttle plate. Just double check that to make sure it has not gone out of wack for some reason. Also, with a TBI, there is no IAC valve which kinda eliminates that from the question, unless your running an efi setup. If it is an efi setup, i would bechecking that IAC valve. |
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Hollywood PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 5601 City: Door Knob
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Posted: Sep 16, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| JUST-IN-TIME wrote: | | they did make a carbed GT-40 motor |
No they didn't. Real GT-40s are MPI.
If it is TBI it is something else, the ProSki or the ProBoss which both also had the ProTec ignition system that is very prone to failure.
ProBoss engines had GT-40 heads, but are not GT-40s. _________________
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