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		whatcomRidaz Criminal
  
 
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				 Posted: Jun 11, 2003 2:14 pm    Post subject: what exactly does the TAPS feature do on Tige? | 
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				| Is it the same as a wakeplate and ballast? | 
			 
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		Jay Dutton Wakeboarder.Commie
  
 
  Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1059 City: Park City, UT
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				 Posted: Jun 11, 2003 2:24 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| It's basically a trim tab not a ballast device.  It cleans/shapes up the wake and helps the boat plane out.  I ride behind a tige' 21V all the time, we basically just use it to clean up the wake.  Yes it works for that pupose, not for making the wake bigger. | 
			 
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		89comp Wakeboarder.Commie
  
  
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				 Posted: Jun 12, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I rode behind a 24V Tige yesterday.  No ballast, but it had the TAPS...the wake was insane. _________________ 1989 Supra Comp TS6M, 06 GLI for haulin'.
 
 
Winter is quite possibly the worst invention ever.
 
 
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		elite wakeboarder Newbie
  
 
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				 Posted: Jun 13, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| They call it a convex v hull that naturally makes the boat in a bow up configuration there for making the wake bigger, and the ride better in rough water. The taps system compansates for that making the bow go down for sking and cruising around. The system works very well and alows you to change the wake sizes with the push of a button | 
			 
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		anti-shoobies Wakeboarder.Commie
  
  
  Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1725 City: Ghettoburg
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		Nor*Cal Ladies Man
  
  
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				 Posted: Jun 13, 2003 1:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I wasn't aware that supra's plate adjusted without getting behind the boat with a wrench.  And if that is still the case ski boat companies have been using plates like that forever. _________________ If I agreed with you we would both be wrong. | 
			 
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		anti-shoobies Wakeboarder.Commie
  
  
  Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1725 City: Ghettoburg
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		Funkster Old School Freak
  
  
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				 Posted: Jun 13, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I totally agree with Jay he said it perfect!! Sometime's I wish I had it on my boat just to help out with getting up on plane!! I swear that 03' 23v has a sweet wake surfing wake. I'am 5'10 and the wake was alittle past my waist with a little curl at the top!! _________________ If you wanna make it,
 
you can't fake it,
 
you gotta live it.
 
 
A-town army reppin' to the fullest....holla. | 
			 
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		nick360 Criminal
  
 
  Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 85 City: Phoenix
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				 Posted: Jun 13, 2003 5:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Anti-shoobies,
 
 
With all due respect, you have been given some incorrect informaion. 
 
 
The turnbuckle adjusted plate that you see on a Supra is called a cavitation plate and inboard companies have been using them for a very long time. Most people have described the purpose of that plate as to knock down the rooster tail and reduce the turbulence between the wakes. 
 
 
The only similarity between Supra's (or anybody's) original plate and Tige's TAPS plate is that they both happen to be attached to the transom of the boat. Tige' made the plate hydraulic and redesigned the hull to work in conjuction with it. Supra didn't convert their plate to hydraulic until about 4 years after Tige' and they have not redesigned their hulls to work in conjuction with it the same way Tige' did, therefore, it does not serve the same function as TAPS.
 
 
And this is not a knock on Supra, I think they build a nice boat. But their hydraulic wake plate system (as well as Centurions) is not the same a TAPS. | 
			 
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		anti-shoobies Wakeboarder.Commie
  
  
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				 Posted: Jun 13, 2003 5:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I didn't say that.  I said they ripped off Supra.  To me, it sounds like they do pretty much the same thing.
 
 
Tige are my favorite boats, so don't worry, I'm not ripping on them.   _________________ Ride harder...
 
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		nick360 Criminal
  
 
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				 Posted: Jun 13, 2003 6:11 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I see what you are saying, shoobies.
 
 
But I think the confusion is in people thinking that a Supra/Moomba or Centurion hull with a hydraulic wake plate will do the same thing as a Tige' hull with the TAPS plate. And they won't.
 
 
I tend to consider "TAPS" as a combination of the convex hull and a hydraulic trim tab working together because it is Tige' Adjustable Performance SYSTEM, some people consider the convex hull and the TAPS plate two different systems.
 
 
So I see how it can be taken different ways.
 
 
I think it was your statement that Tige' ripped off Supra that I didn't agree with. I'm not sure who the first company was to install a cavitation plate, but I would say that most have use one at some point in time. | 
			 
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		anti-shoobies Wakeboarder.Commie
  
  
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				 Posted: Jun 14, 2003 7:44 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I gotcha nick360.  Will TAPS work without the Convex Hull and vice versa.  Sounds like you need to have both to achieve a good or should I say clean wake. _________________ Ride harder...
 
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		nick360 Criminal
  
 
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				 Posted: Jun 14, 2003 11:31 am    Post subject:  | 
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				The TAPS plate is what allows Tige to build rocker (convex) into their hulls rather than hook (concave) like everyone else. With out the plate, they would have to build a slalom ski based, concave hull like everybody else.
 
 
The Tige convex hull must have the TAPS plate to plane out in any decent time, to produce slalom wakes and it can also be used to shape wakes. However, the new Tige Convex V hull will produce a clean smooth wake even W/O the TAPS plate. Now on some of the older hulls when you added weight, the TAPS plate was sometimes neccesary to clean up the wake.
 
 
A hydraulic wake plate like the TAPS plate can be mounted either on Tige's convex hull or anybody elses concave hull and it can still provide two of the three fuctions as on a Tige; decrease planing time & shape the wake. However, a concave hull is already designed for slalom skiing rather than wakeboarding, therefor, unless it is mounted on a Tige' convex hull, it gives you no benefit to increasing wake size. | 
			 
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		BIGMAC Wakeboarder.Commie
  
  
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				 Posted: Jun 14, 2003 8:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| elite wakeboarder,   What Tiges have you been behind? | 
			 
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