Newbie looking for tricks to do and lots of tips

[TJjeepDude16]

Ok so heres where I'm coming from. Im riding behind a sea ray 240 sundeck with no tower, so the rope height is real low and pulling me down when I jump. I can get some pretty good air (in my opinion), but I'm limited to several tricks I would love to try and work up to due to lack of hangtime.
All I can currently do is a:
-surface 180
-wake 180
-ride switch
-w2w
-and some grabs
I am happy with those tricks but want more to choose from.
I hold the grabs for a millisecond because hangtime is short. I want to try flips and spins, and was wondering if anyone wakeboards behind a similar setup as me, no tower, no fatsacs, etc.

[DeloBoarder]

Congrats on getting w2w! It is really a great feeling when you make a big step up like that.

I ride behind a bayliner with a 90 HP outboard motor, so I know how it is to have limited hangtime. Despite small wakes and other hindrances, you can progress, but it may take a little longer than if you had a huge wake, tower, etc. I have learned w2w heelside and a HS frontside 180 w2w and some grabs, and now I'm really trying to focus on switch riding. The way I see it is that doing inverts, bigger spins, and the like will come a lot easier if you take the time to learn the basics of wake jumps all four ways. That's not to say that learning 3's and basic inverts is out of the question for beginners, but with limited hangtime I think focusing on basics leads to less frustration and will help you in the longrun. It is, however, funny to try inverts with little air just for the sake of wipeouts. Good luck and just have fun

[JustinCT]

I just started this year so I don't have a lot of information to offer...take this with a grain of salt and maybe some other guys will chime in.

It sounds like you have a good solid foundation of tricks. My friends and I were riding behind an 18' stingray I/O earlier this summer. That boat got traded in for a Supra. The difference in the wake is ridiculous. It's really allowed us all to progress tremendously quicker than we had been behind the stingray. If you can invest some money maximizing your boat setup, I think it can really help. I'm not saying that you can't do inverts or big spins behind your boat, but a nice fat wake sure helps beginners like me catch a lot more air. I'm sure that a veteran rider could do pretty much anything behind a boat like you have or we used to have, but having a big wake to hit makes it pretty much effortless for newbs like me pop high enough for tricks that i'll probably never attempt.

Sorry for the long winded response. I say set aside some cash for fatsacks. In my opinion boat setup can have a noticeable affect on your potential and progression.