New York Boat Show / CSX 265?

PimpinD2 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: New York Boat Show / CSX 265?

Anyone hear anything about it? Friend just got back from the boat show and said it was super nice inside and very roomy.

Ill get him to post some pictures soon...

Well here are some pictures that my friend Billy Ely took at the boat show.

www.wakeboardingphotos.com

PimpinD2 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 10:34 am Post subject:

PimpinD2 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 10:54 am Post subject:

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PimpinD2 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

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jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

working at a boat marina, primarily of fishing boats (maybe like 25 or so ib/ob ski boats) and 275 or so fishing boats. i have to say that csx is one of the oddest looking fishing boats i've seen.

is is a fishing boat? or like luxury sport....time to look up some more.

"
Saturday vs. Sunday

So much competes for your leisure time these days, we identified the need for a new species of craft—one boat capable of maximizing every adventurous moment aboard no matter where your travels take you. One versatile boat that would enable you to beat the weekend at its own game.

The CSX offers so much saltwater variety, the momentous things you do one day will compete against the thrilling things you can accomplish the next. From snorkeling to surfing to fishing to anything and everything in between, the CSX is the most adaptable boat ever invented.

It features a special saltwater engine and complete corrosion-resistant components throughout. Below, there’s room for scuba tanks, camping gear and water toys. With a 101-inch beam, there’s an incredible amount of room above to move around with 12 of your coolest friends. Add the optional rack system for boards, skis, or even a kayak.

So let it all hang loose on Saturday. Because Sunday is just around the corner, sitting there quietly licking its chops.
Length
21'5"

Beam
102"

Boat Weight
4,300 Lbs.

Seating
12 Persons or 1,595 Lbs.

Fuel Capacity
57 Gallons" - from mastercraft website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTkO1i2SFYM

in that video it says 94 grand for one.. can anybody confirm that?

seems a bit over the top for my taste. plus when you are fishing saltwater you need an outboard boat anyway Wink

PimpinD2 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject:

jlaws, have you see some of the new See Vee's fishboats? they are inboards.

jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

ehh that was more or less a joke (i forgot it's a local thing :/)they look like really nice boats, but i would like to see these boats you are talking about.

and are those Yamaha 350s on those grady whites? Shocked

PimpinD2 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject:

that would be nice.

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

nickl011 · Posted: Jan 02, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject:

The 4th pic of the 2nd post looks like an older Glastron Carlson Intimidator. Confused

Erik · Posted: Jan 03, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject:

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

Erik, true, but didn't you mention that MC dropped millions into the R&D for the CSX? And then didn't you mention (or was this a presumtion on your part?) that they were just going to pass the buck on to the consumer?

And how many of these boats have actually sold? The 220 I mean, because I can't imagine the 265 will be made in large numbers.

on a side note- there's a "Fearless yachts by Porsche" boat. Is this the same Porsche that I'm thinking of? The cover was over the boat so I couldn't check it out. It's sitting right next to three Wakecraft boats. I'd ask for my money back.

Erik · Posted: Jan 04, 2008 3:30 am Post subject:

jjaszkow · Posted: Jan 04, 2008 10:30 am Post subject:

scott a, I think that the Fearless Yachts was done by the Porsche Design Studio ( http://www.porsche-design.com/live/Product_News_PDS_en.PorscheDesign?ActiveID=41825 ) While Porsche AG has majority ownership of the design company, I don't think they have much to do with the cars (probably the Porsche you're thinking of).

... it's even got a Chrysler engine. Shocked

You'd think they'd at least tried to keep with the Porsche theme for that.

snowboardcorey · Posted: Jan 06, 2008 7:20 am Post subject:

R&D costs are always going to be passed along to the consumer. I think MC is looking at the CSX line to be a long term revenue generator and therefore the upfront costs of R&D are an investment in long term growth.

In addition, assuming that the current MC production plant is not running at full capacity, than an increase in production could help increase efficiency and help to lower the overall production cost on each boat produced further increasing MC's bottom dollar.

Key word there being "assuming" I have no idea where MC's is at as far as capacity or efficiency, just saying that stretching into new markets could have a positive long term effect on their company and the boats we ride behind. A profitable company has the resources to invest in R&D and should do so (smartly) to continue being successful.

Brit Rider · Posted: Jan 06, 2008 8:22 am Post subject:

snowboardcorey, You're close.

MC knows that the Wakeboard Market isn't growing like it used to be. Thus their opinion is, "well we already build the best ski and wakeboard boats, and do ok in the high end sports boat market (Maristars), lets be the best at something else too" - The Fishing, recreational and dive boat markets are all big arenas to enter... if MC can get a small share in these areas then they could comfortably double their boat production. They are still sticking to their core competency of luxurious, high end boats.. just a different style of boat now.

MC entering new markets is a seriously smart move in my opinion; the CSX is an ideal test mule for this purpose.

tball · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 3953

Who besides consumers ever pays for R&D? If someone has an address for where I can send some R&D bills please pass it along; I've got lots of work waiting.

Erik · Posted: Jan 07, 2008 6:19 am Post subject:

tball, venture capitalists.

tball · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 3953

I recognize that this is going beyond the scope of the boat forum, but venture capitalists don't give gifts...they want a return on their investment. If VCs fund R&D, it's only with the prospect of company revenues eventually exceeding the company's costs in order to return a profit. Profit = price of products (charged to the consumer) exceeds cost of products (including R&D) no matter where the initial investment came from.

I know you're smart on business so we're probably doing a semantic dance here.

LoudonTN · Posted: Jan 17, 2008 6:37 am Post subject:

Great pics, any more?

Erik · Posted: Jan 17, 2008 6:49 am Post subject:

How does the semantic dance go?

Smile

Yeah - you're right. The price of these boats is tough to justify rationally but I remain a fan of the CSX line.

Brit Rider · Posted: Jan 17, 2008 10:51 am Post subject:

I was in the prototype CSX 265 earelier this week and was blown away... Not sure what I could use it for but I know I'd find something!

If you just wanted something that was easy to maintain, has some range, good water rough water ability with several zones to chill out in then this is it.

awesome awesome awesome boat!