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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Importing Boat US to Canada Reply with quote

I am trying to figure out the best way to have a boat imported. Here are the details and a few questions.

Seller is located in West Michigan and I am in B.C. Canada.

Can the boat be shipped across the border to me without the importing being done at that time..So that i could do it at my local customs once the boat is in my hands?

Its a 2006 vlx which i believe is 8'6 wide..Would this fit on a train or should i just look into having it shipped on a flatbed truck?

Do I need to check for liens or anything with a used boat?

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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just hire a broker.

With the weak US dollar, there are plenty of folks specializing in this and they are getting squeezed for price.

Get ready to convert your MPH speedometer to KPH and all kinds of silly crap. Smile
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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A while ago I bought a boat in the US and imported it to Canada.

My wife and I looked into it fairly extensively, so we feel we know the process.

The steps are as follows:

1. Make the deal for the boat. Typical savings are about 40%. We saved about $15000.

2. Make a deal for transport to the border. We arranged to meet the old owner half way, but you can arrange to have the boat shipped to the border. From Michigan to BC would likely run about $3000. I would tend to drive it myself if you have the vehicle and the time. As far as I know you cannot get the boat shipped across the border. It just cannot be done.

3. At the border, be prepared for extensive investigation into the purchase deal. I had complete documentation including invoice, but I did not have canceled cheques. They grilled me for three hours about this. Eventually I had the bank FAX in copies of the money order transactions.

4. Once they are satisfied with a purchase price, you pay GST on it.

5. You initiate the paperwork to get the trailer licensed in Canada. This will involve a statement of non-recall and a later inspection by an agent, usually Canadian Tire, but there are others. This costs about $300.

6. You drive the boat across the border.

7. If the boat was registered with a number in the US, you can keep this, or re-register in BC, or for a new boat register the boat for a number. This is free.

8. Have fun in your boat.
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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

howabouttheiris wrote:

Get ready to convert your MPH speedometer to KPH and all kinds of silly crap. Smile


Funny thing is that boats in Canada use MPH speedometers, so that's not an issue (disclaimer - my boat is a bit older, maybe this is different now).
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PostPosted: Jan 12, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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howabouttheiris wrote:

Get ready to convert your MPH speedometer to KPH and all kinds of silly crap.


Funny thing is that boats in Canada use MPH speedometers, so that's not an issue (disclaimer - my boat is a bit older, maybe this is different now).


I have a 2004, its MPH.
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PostPosted: Jan 12, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3. At the border, be prepared for extensive investigation into the purchase deal.

I had an invoice for the purchase of both the boat and trailer along with a signed copy of the license/registration by the previous owner transferring it to me. Filled out a couple forms for taxes and I was in and out of customs in about 15 mins.
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PostPosted: Jan 19, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy Thread, this is what I am lookign to do. I know the savings will be big. Is it that much cheaper to buy new as well? Abrider and ontrider, what did you guys buy? Are you happy with it?
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deepcove wrote:
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howabouttheiris wrote:

Get ready to convert your MPH speedometer to KPH and all kinds of silly crap.


Funny thing is that boats in Canada use MPH speedometers, so that's not an issue (disclaimer - my boat is a bit older, maybe this is different now).


I have a 2004, its MPH.



As far as I know, it makes no difference if you have MPH or KPH on the speedo legally. Almost everyone uses MPH for the perfectpass anyway.
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit for double post

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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leviwynnyk wrote:
Crazy Thread, this is what I am lookign to do. I know the savings will be big. Is it that much cheaper to buy new as well? Abrider and ontrider, what did you guys buy? Are you happy with it?


I bought a new boat and saved big. With the better exchange rate now, it would be even bigger if I bought another one.

Get the documentation in order, and you won't have much trouble. I had some hassle because the customs agent looked up the going rate for the boat in Canada, and it was about 15000 more than I paid on my receipt, so he was very suspicious of a false receipt and that I was trying to get out of about $1000 in GST. He searched the boat for the true receipt but, of course, could not find it, since I had already given it to him up front. He eventually told me that about 3/4 of boats going across the border have false receipts to get out of paying GST. They are trying to crack down. That was in Alberta in 2005.

The boat is great. There are warranty issues that you may have to deal with, but I have not had a problem.
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stroke, According to you, you were purchasing my boat through a broker? What gives? Is this just an information gathering question?
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you purchased the boat in 05 there probably weren't that many going over the border. With the dollar around Par there's around 25,000 vehicles going over the border per month now. They don't have time to take three hours to find out what you really paid for the boat or car.

I brought back a car just before Christmas. I had to have a bill of sale, and a title. I paid the GST based on the purchase price of the car and I was done in 15 minutes. It's sooooo worth it buying big ticket items in the US right now. Until Canadian dealers figure out they can't rape us anymore I won't hesitate to cross the border again. I don't mind paying 3-5k more, but when you can save 15k or more on something that costs around 50k that's crazy.

The trailer will need to be inspected on a Federal level which is done by crappy tire which costs around 200 bucks. The boat doesn't need an inspection at all. Just the serial number, title and proof of ownership and take it down to the registry (boat) which is a federal one, not provincial and you're done.

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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke with the local Moomba dealership and they are asking about $55k-$58k for a loaded XLV, which is "close" to what they are going for in the states. I'm also looking at an 06 Supra 24SSV loaded for about $49k located in the states.

So many options, I'm just not sure what direction to go. I think I have narrowed it down to Malibu VLX, Supra 22 or 24, Moomba XLV or Centurion 22 or 23. Still that's a lot of boats to pick from.

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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oshensurfer wrote:
stroke, According to you, you were purchasing my boat through a broker? What gives? Is this just an information gathering question?


At first I was planning to do everything myself but have chosen to use a broker instead. Saves me alot of headache and does't cost too much extra.
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stroke, cool! At first I thought I was getting the run around until I noticed the date you posted the thread. Embarassed

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