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PostPosted: Apr 16, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: check valves Reply with quote

I'm trying to finish up and buy all my parts for the ballast i'm installing and was wondering what type of check valves people were using. The spring loaded ones seem like they would cause way to my resistance on the line for a Tsunami 1100 pumps. The swing valves seem the best, but how well do they work if you don't mount them vertical? Does water slowly leak out?
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PostPosted: Apr 16, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you stated, swing c/v offer less resistance.

You can mount them horizontal or vertical. When mounting horizontal you have to make sure the flapper hangs down. There are orientation markings on the valves. I'm sure there are options for the water to slowly leak out, but you minimize this by trying to make your empty outlet higher than your bag.

Don't forget to take into account the pitch of the boat while taking off/on plane. That's probably why you see most outlets forward of the ballast tanks/bags.

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PostPosted: Apr 17, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this question is not related to the check valves, but i'm wondering if there is anyone else that did a ballast for a MC v-drive and connected a manifold to the thru hull. If so, where in the heck did u put it? I thought I was going to put in right next to my center drain so I could just unscrew that black cap, but there is NO room in there. Other then cutting a new spot in the floor, i don't see a good spot.
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PostPosted: Apr 19, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My buddy and I did one in his 205V...we installed the thru-hull on the port side in the engine compartment - it was very tight...plan on "swing room" for tightening the necessary fittings.

I may have to install the thru-hul, hook an elbow and then use a short piece of hose to connect the manifold. This allows pre-fabrication of the manifold outside the boat (and removal if something goes wrong or needs replacing)

My boat's alot different but uses this connection - just under the check valve is where mine has the hose "splice"

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PostPosted: Apr 23, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P hat in Cincy wrote:
As you stated, swing c/v offer less resistance.

You can mount them horizontal or vertical. When mounting horizontal you have to make sure the flapper hangs down. There are orientation markings on the valves. I'm sure there are options for the water to slowly leak out, but you minimize this by trying to make your empty outlet higher than your bag.

Don't forget to take into account the pitch of the boat while taking off/on plane. That's probably why you see most outlets forward of the ballast tanks/bags.

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Phat in Cindy,
I am familiar with your work, good stuff. Any idea where I can get these c/v at? I checked Home Depot, and they looked at me like I was on crack. Any help would be great. Thanks, Shawn
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did find some of the valves at Home Depot, but they were 1.5" and bigger. They had both spring and swing. The prices were the same w/ s/h ordering them from the plumbing store online. This way you don't have to deal w/ someone that has no f'n idea what you want when you try to expain it. It will just show up at your door.

http://www.plumbingsupply.com/pvccheck.html
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...we installed the thru-hull on the port side in the engine compartment - it was very tight...


your not kidding that will be tight. I don't think that location will work for me. If I want to use the automatic switch it definitely won't.

If i pull up the whole floor there is room under there, but if something goes wrong it will be hell trying to get back in there w/o cutting a access panel in the floor. That is what i'm trying to stay away from.
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Carni,

That's the supply house I used for checks...

I'm always surprised at how much room there ISN'T in these boats...however, once the system is set up and tested, you COULD put it in a relatively inaccessible location - very little goes wrong...

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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

might wanna look for a brady valve also in your sump pump section of lowes..
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PostPosted: Sep 05, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 98 225vrs. I know exactly what your going through.

On mine the corner cushions aren't easily removed unless you move another cushion next to them. I took out the old cooler tray in the starboard back corner and put my manifold under that cushion. It was the only place with enough room for RV gate valve and 4 aerators. I put an emergency shut-off valve on the port side accessible from the middle when the seat cushion and tray that goes over the tranny is removed. Then ran 1.25in tubing above the tranny, cut a whole in the seat base next to the gas line, and ran it to the manifold.
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