i just can't get it!!! Suface 360

[zparlet]

I have been wakeboarding for a little while now and i can do w2w 180's and have almost landed the 360, but there is one simple trick i have yet to acomplish, it is the surface 360, i have surface 180's down. once your backwards, after your first rotation, with the handle pass done i just can't stuck backwards and it feels as though i can't go no farther. Why is this?? I try to do the same as i would so with a 180, but it doesn't work. So if anyone can give me some pointers on what i could do different, that would be helpful! Thnks

[david-d]

are you doing the surface spin backside or frontside? i feel its easier to just start a backside butterslide, and then when you get the handle behind your back, since you're having trouble coming around, just pull harder once you pass the handle, and move your body how you would to complete the spin

[kmagnuss]

Do it while the boat is starting up, or just going slow period, it will make it alot easier to learn. Also, you can do it while the boat is turning around...just go on the inside of the turn, and it's just like going slow. Yank that stinking handle and make the pass!

[zparlet]

yeah i will try it backside, also is it possible with fins? Because my board the 07 O'biren Demented 136, has 4 fins, 2 molded, 2 other, maybe thats why

[ontrider]

Yes it is...

And do you have a wrap handle? That's another way to get the feel... wrap it and cut out hard... do a powerslide but keep going and bring it around to a backside 180... you should have lots of slack and just turn the last 180.

[zparlet]

thanks so much i came so close to doing it this last weekend i will try it again later!!!