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'Advance', as simple as that???

 
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: 'Advance', as simple as that??? Reply with quote

I was reading several wakeboard "How - to"s on extending a w2w jump to a huge jump.

I have a solid w2w to the flats and a good seated w2w for spins.

One article I read talked about "Advance" or the increase of tension on your lead foot as you approach the wake in order to maximize the 2nd pull of the rope, the one you get in the air.

Is this as simple as that? Just applying more pressure to your lead foot once on edge?

I can jump really far into the flats without ever feeling the rope suggesting that I go to a raley.... Is this the missing key?
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PostPosted: Jul 17, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you edge THROUGH the top of the wake you will feel the pull of the rope, letting your edge off when your going up the wake is what makes you feel no tension.

From what i've noticed about my jumps anyways.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an exerpt from the article.... written by a moderator / advanced rider on the wakeboard.sg site.

Maybe I am alone in this, but I do not think to put extra pressure on the nose of the board as I carve into a jump..... I may do it to maintain my edge, but never to increase it.

I hope to ride on Saturday, so I will try it out.



There are 3 main focuses that assist me in effecting that – Pop, Advance and Maintain or “PAM” for short. These are the steps I take when I need to sustain a long and elevated wake jump.

Step 1 : POP

For those of you who have done the pre-take-off portions of the wake jump properly (a good indication would be you have sufficient time to think about the jump throughout the whole edging process), the next crucial issue would be to focus on the “pop” or lift-off.y riders would stop at just “kicking” hard with all their might when they come in contact with the upslope of the wake and praying for the best thereafter. However, with sufficient attempts, you probably realize that this usually translates to eight out of ten nose-dives or face-plants which eventually leave you in a daze. A proper lift-off at the wake constitutes a correct amount of knee extension with accurate timing.

Let’s us first take a look at how the extension could be done. If we were to zoom in on the components of our body, we could in fact quite easily see that there are 3 main “moving body parts” that can assist us in this movement – waist, knee and ankle. However, the use of either the ankle or waist normally throws our body position into disarray, simply because the ankle movement doesn’t project upwards but more backwards with respect to where we want to go and any slight twitch of the upper body (waist up) would relinquish any control needed to maintain the jump. That leaves us with just our knees to perform the “pop”. And it is true that the extension performed primarily with our knees would generally ensure a crash-free landing even if done at the wrong time (ie, missing the wake). After saying that, we shouldn’t go away with the idea that our ankles and waist do not serve any purpose in a wake jump at all. They are still much needed to support the action of a wake jump but just that the bulk of it should be carried out by our knees. So you can see the importance of proper knee maintenance..J

We extend our knees when the hardest portion of the wake is felt. To be able to do that, sufficient knee bend is required while approaching the wake. As a guide, adopt nothing lower than a “sitting posture” with the knees bent not more than 90 degrees. Feel the boat pull coming through your hips and lower back while having your back arched slightly. Another essential point to note is to push off firmly on the balls of your feet instead of your toes. This helps keep the ankles locked during extension. Elbows should also be kept firmly in place by tucking them close to the side of your ribs. A common mistake is always to pull in the tow handle and open up the elbows. This could easily shift the pull onto your shoulder which makes it very difficult to hold your posture.

Step 2 : ADVANCE

Now that we have settled the initiation of the pop, the latter part of the jump will be a breeze. With step 1 completed successfully, we should be assured of at least a decent jump with respectable air and pose. To take it one step further into a more “floaty” one, advancement of the upper body is required whilst airborne. This is a rather delicate move. It involves rocking forward onto the nose of the board to bring it almost flat with respect to the water surface. Depending on how hard you edged into the wake, you would have to compensate by advancing as much (note that this should only be done with a tight line). Most riders do it conservatively or not at all for fear of the nose diving in and clipping the water on landing. However, if it is carried out appropriately, a second pull from the boat should be experienced after passing the second wake. This is what gives you and the onlookers that “floaty” feeling, not seen and appreciated by an ordinarily “plain-looking” wake jump.

Step 3 : MAINTAIN

Well, the wake jump tends to get easier and easier as you progress. So, the last step requires you to do nothing more than just maintaining what you have accomplished in step 2. Simple as it may seem, it takes some discipline and awareness to achieve it. Remember that one-tenth of a second in the air could feel like eternity. If not acted upon conscientiously, all the efforts put forth from the beginning would go down the drain. Maintaining your posture also aids in achieving firm and steady grabs as you progress further on.
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