Tandrum or Backroll?

1fast300z · Newbie Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 17 City: Cincinnati

I have wakeboarded for 5 or so years but this is the first year I have really gotten serious and wanted to progress. I rode on a board that was 10 years old and had the sandle bindings, no ankle support or anything! I currently have a Hyperlite Premiere with Hyperlite ERA bindings.

What is easier? Backroll or Tandrum? I have tried several backrolls.. Just trying to get the feel for them, I have not kept the handle in my hand yet after hitting the wake, I guess that is the first thing I need to do differently.

I read over alot of advice for doing backrolls but if you guys have any more input thats cool to. Here is a video of me trying a backroll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttHMUqsCAn0

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

I think you threw that trick before you even hit the wake. You definately need to hold your edge longer (all the way up the wake). Edge up the wake harder and you'll get the pop you need to get around. It's also going to help you clear the other wake. Rotation looks o.k. but you'll never get around until you hold that edge longer.

jpminter · Posted: Jul 05, 2007 3:43 am Post subject:

Don't cut out as far. Edge progressively. You need to be edging much harder at the wake. This is a load and release trick. You had no load and therefore nothing to release.

1fast300z · Newbie Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 17 City: Cincinnati

Awsome, thanks for the tips. As for the Tandrum..? is that harder to learn than a backroll or is it kind of a toss up depending on how you ride?

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

jt09 · Ladies Man Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 22083 City: Austin

Backroll is easier as there is really nothing to actually throwing the trick. It will also help get you used to keeping your eyes open and spotting your landing.

Tantrums are almost as easy, but I would suggest getting your BRs down first just to get used to being upside down.

--cresko-- · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 496

took me 4 tries to ride away from a tanny

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

--cresko-- · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 496

no i knew from my first try the difference between a laid out tantrum o a tucked tantrum depending on style and just a "quick" backflip. Its weird that people cant post sh*t on this site anymore without other people getting in their faces.... Rolling Eyes

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

jixxxer · Posted: Jul 09, 2007 5:20 am Post subject:

Is it possible to do a tantrum or back roll with out being able to do them on a trampoline?? Not that I cant do them on a trampoline, just never tried.

Chattwake · Posted: Jul 09, 2007 5:27 am Post subject:

Tantrums are much easier to learn IMO. I taught my friends by making them get on a wakeskate and ride into the wake and huck a backflip while letting go of the handle with their back hand. Knowing that you are going to crash and that there's not a board on your feet seems to allow people to concentrate on the rotation. After a few attempts, must people will get the hang of letting the rope pull them all the way around. Once I see the rotation, I get the person to put a board on and try a few. Usually, I have had good success teaching tantrums that way.

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

jixxxer · Posted: Jul 09, 2007 9:59 am Post subject:

Cool, "02lightning"; I like your idea with the wakeskate!

QNev · Posted: Jul 09, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject:

02lightning, were they wearing helmets? You'd think with a projectile such as a wakeskate, someone's melon would probably hit it.