Throwin in the towel...

RufioSwashbuckle · Posted: Sep 26, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: Throwin in the towel...

I HATE ADMITTING THIS!!! I gotta stop riding for the rest of the season. Both of my MCL's are hurting frequently and my right ACL occasionally as well. Im going to lay off of the hard wake riding until I can get an exam that says otherwise. I love this stuff too much to injure myself and screw it up for next season.

My dad (doctor) says I can still do rails though (considering Im a "Hop on hop off" rail rider and Im going to O-Dub next month), and I can wakeskate too. We think the problem is constant strain on the knees from hard landings with an improper binding setting. I can still run around and pivot and crap just fine, but after a set, or that night in bed my knees hurt way too much for it to be just an ache.

I HATE THIS!!!!!!!

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

sorry to hear, but fyi, murray completely blew his knee wakeskating.

itch · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: Re: Throwin in the towel...

WakeBoarder44 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1107

I wish you the best for next season...
hope it will be OK then

may it be a consolation, we still have 2 weeks left before it gets to cold to go out...

LoudonTN · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 5:35 am Post subject:

RufioSwashbuckle, it's cause you duck your bindings like 16 degree's! That sucks man, gotta ride at nationals though. Sorry, no choice, haha

RufioSwashbuckle · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 6:19 am Post subject:

actually its 18 degrees haha. dude i'm so torn about nationals. let jenkins ride in my stead!

8824 · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 6:24 am Post subject:

RufioSwashbuckle,

Sorry to hear about your issues, I have found in my limited experience and exposure to the sport that most of the knee injuries occur while being strapped in.

I have not really heard too much about wakeskaters blowing out their knees. Yes I know a few have mentioned on ws.com that they have injured their knees, but if you are winching a fountain in 6 inches of water, uhhhhhh something bad will come of it.

Hope you feel better.

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

muckmeister, I almost killed mine last year landing one foot on, one foot off. Wakeskating can pose just as much of a threat.

8824 · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 6:41 am Post subject:

ontrider,

that is the one situation where you put the knee in jeopardy. however, i have been on the boat and watched 2 people BLOW their knees out while they have landed solid and did not crash at all.

i am not saying it will not happen on a skate, i am just saying from what i have been exposed to (which is not much) the risk seems higher while being strapped in.

Commodore · Ladies Man Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636

RufioSwashbuckle, man there's something in the water here in TN this year. A friend blew out her ACL. I tore the muscles attached to my back and shoulder blade off. This sucks not being able to ride! Crying or Very sad

Sorry, just frustrated. Sorry to hear about the knees though man. Go easy on'em.

RufioSwashbuckle · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 7:23 am Post subject:

whoa now fellas. you're talking as if I can actually do Stuff on a skate!! I'm just taking out cruising around.

King of the Tigers · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 11:06 am Post subject:

Bring your bindings in a lot. I went through so many knee problems when I had mine really ducked out. Now mine are both only slightly ducked out and it hasn't really affected my riding and it has really affected my knees.

I also REALLY recommend eating a lot of fish. I had knee problems for a year and I took glucosamine, shark cartilage, and saw physical therapists. I never noticed much of a difference until I started eating fish. In about a month my knees felt almost no pain.

Hope you feel better soon.

Byrd · Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 10

You should workout in the off-season as well. Increasing your leg strength will decrease the chances of Knee injury

Maestro · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject:

You should be happy you're still getting out on the water. My season was done at the end of August Sad

Shawn Madison · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:

RufioSwashbuckle, Man, that was my downfall. And probably that I gained about 30 lbs and grew another 3 inches.

arof · Posted: Sep 27, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject:

Byrd · Newbie Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 10

If you have strong flexible muscle around your joints, they are less likely to get injured. By comparing wakeboarders to basketball players might not be the best comparison. All joint injuries are stress related, due to the fact that the stress that causes the injury is more more than the strength the muscles around the joint can handle. The stronger the muscles, the more stress the joint can handle without injury. Notice I did not say that it will 100% prevent injury, but it will decrease the likelyhood of an injury. Ask a doctor or sports therepst if you want more info...

Blake · Posted: Sep 28, 2006 7:02 am Post subject:

Shawn Madison, seriously... When I was 18, I blew my knee apart. MCL, ACL, Miniskus... In the process, I put on around 30 lbs. I blew mine out on a Kryp.

First time I got to come back, I chose to ride in a tourney, fell out of my truck when docking the boat, and broke my foot in 12 or so places. Accidents just happen.

RufioSwashbuckle, I am glad to hear you arent trying to push yourself harder. Right now you may have strained your acl, and mcl's. The best thing to do is go swim laps at a ymca for a while, that has an indoor pool. Hit the tramp. DONT RUN ON IT! That adds too much stress. And if you can, visit a sports therapist for a couple of sessions, and let him teach you how to stretch, and other things to make your knee stronger for next year!

firefighter_186 · Soul Rider Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 291 City: Killeen

That sucks man, I just got MRI back and I re-tore my ACL and tore my medial meniscus.

I've already been through this rehab thing once, not really too much fun. And like they said above the ACL being a ligament you can't really do much for it. But I agree like they said above you will get some limited increase in stability and resistance to injury if you strength train and stretch.

And how can you say your MCL's and ACL hurt? Being ligaments there are very few pain receptors in them. You might have a condition called bursitis, a swelling of the sack around the joint, the Bursa.

Just take it easy and get ready for next year. Strength training, video, some trampoline, and first and foremost Shawn Murray Unleashed.

Blake · Posted: Sep 28, 2006 9:03 am Post subject:

firefighter_186, he could "strain" the ligaments.

CANDYBARFILMS123 · Criminal Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 77

I just tore my MCL wakeskating last week. landed w. my knee locked out, out for 6 weeks luckily no surgery

firefighter_186 · Soul Rider Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 291 City: Killeen

Blake
Sorry not trying to start a fight but there is no way he could have "strained" his MCL. ACL or any other Ligament for that matter. He may have "sprained" it though. Strain is for muscles and tendons; sprains are for ligaments and joints. And if you sprain it, there will be edema, which will lead to inflammation causing pain. It is not the ligament itself hurting; it is the surrounding joint.

CANDYBARFILMS123

What kind of "tear" did you have to be out for only 6 weeks with no surgery? A grade 1(superficial), Grade 2(moderate) or Grade 3(complete rupture)?

Blake · Posted: Sep 28, 2006 10:14 am Post subject:

firefighter_186 · Soul Rider Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 291 City: Killeen

Oops, sorry fixed it. Yes they are 2 different terms for 2 different injuries. I do have some experience in the health care field so I am not just making this up.

nickdakoolkat · Posted: Sep 28, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject:

itch, lol

Sorry to hear about your pain, I hope your knees are fine

Roos · Outlaw Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 192

arof Working out will help alot.
The MCL, ACL, miniscus and the muscles all work together to keep the knee from injuries when strained from falls and so on.
If you have stronger muscles (in the right place) that will help the joint and make it stronger. Don't just get into machines and workout your fron and back leg muscles and your calfs, that won't do much. Do training for the balance-muscles in the area around the knee. Do leg stretches with weights on your shoulders standing on only one leg, don't know what they are called in english though...
We call them, like, fall out steps... Razz

Also, hockey jumps, but you shouldn't actually jump.
Also try attaching some rubber band to your ancle and swining the leg left to right. That will strengthen the knee. Of course you can still do front/back thigh training, but that will only do soo much, it will help so do that as well. =)

Anyways... point is... working out helps, talk to a physio therapist...

Good luck!

Mike

Zerp · Newbie Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 28 City: St. Louis

RufioSwashbuckle, looks like I'll be joining on the injured list, I fractured my rib boarding this afternoon. I just got my new full suit too... Sad