Backroll or Tantrum?

Wakeska89 · Newbie Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 19 City: Rockford

I have tried a tantrum quite a bit of times and came pretty close to landing them, but i see alot of posts about people trying backrolls as their first inverts. Which ones easier, a tantrum or a backroll?

michigan boarder · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 333 City: MI

it depends on you. One isn't necessarliy easier than another. If you can do backflips on a tramp or off of something I'd go with a tantrum otherwise try a backroll, but honestly it's all personal preference.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 19, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject:

Try both, neither of them will hurt too badly if you crash so you can't go wrong.

flounderbout · Outlaw Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 224 City: London

Hahaha. That last post is such a lie!
I landed a back roll first, and am just starting to get them consistent. Took me a good while though, and some of the crashes were sick. I tried my first tantrum at the weekend though, and landed my second attmept clean. So I am thinking that maybe they are a bit easier. You are less likely to catch a sick front edge landing tantrums too...

dan.smith · Criminal Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 64

I tried over 60 backrolls until I finally landed my 1st (2 weeks ago, in fact). I tweaked my knee a few times coming around revert (unintentionally), had a few board ejections, but all in all, falls weren't that bad.

I tried a tantrum a few times in the middle of the year when I temporarily gave up on the backroll. While I only tried it 4 times, I felt like I could land one easier that a backroll. However, IMO, the falls hurt more, but only if you under rotate (i.e. fall on face). Why I didn't continue trying them, I don't know. Maybe because I'm a pu$$y.

Also, I know a few people who have blow knees out from a tantrum...not that you can't on a backroll, its just that I don't know anyone who has.

OuachitaWaker · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 577 City: Hot Springs

I went with the backroll first, because the pop on a tantrum is tricky to get dialed in

the backroll was very easy for my first invert, just roll off the wake - eventually you will figure out how hard you need to throw it and how long to delay before throwing it.

Just make sure you commit to which ever you try

flounderbout · Outlaw Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 224 City: London

Here's a couple of backrolls and my first tantrum from the weekend. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7236258413594982411
The video I wanted to upload is playing up, but is a very good example of how backrolls can really peel your eyelids back... Smile

flounderbout · Outlaw Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 224 City: London

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1264262602162528344
The joys of catching a front edge landing a backroll...

OuachitaWaker · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 577 City: Hot Springs

the first one where you start to go to revert sucks, i do that every now and then when i throw a backroll and i dont know why i do it, even if i hold on with 2 hands like you do i will still go to revert every now and then

michigan boarder · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 333 City: MI

I used to go to revert even with both hands. Don't open up your body so much. Your arms should make a triangle from your chest. This triangle should never change throughout your rotation. If you let it change you'll most likely go to revert.

colefooter · Posted: Nov 28, 2007 8:21 am Post subject:

flounderbout, unless you half ass your backroll, you shouldn't underrotate. Some people can't figure out the rotation of a tantrum easily, so there is no reason not to try both. Backroll is a very simple rotation to understand, where as a tantrum does involve a certain amount of timing. I too landed a tantrum after two tries, but i also think that is because I had backflips on a trampoline easily.

Either way, try both. It clearly depends on the person as to which one is easier. Typically one is learned right after the other, so it really does not matter.

Also, eye peelers come with every trick.

ph wakeboarder · Criminal Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 57 City: orlando

I go to OWC and i was wondering if a back roll or a tantrum is easier of a ramp. I do the big ramp and i have never tried either, i have never even tried a backflip on a tramp but i think i can do it. Which do you think would be a good first invert to learn of a ramp. Or would a raley of the ramp be easier than both?