Wake 2 Wake Jumping Old Man style

Old Man Stevens · Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 8

I've been trying to get my wake to wake jump going, but still end up landing on the top of the wake. I think I'm too stretched out. Am I supposed to pull the rope to my hips when I take off? I think I'm struggling with the rope when I get to the wake. I get plenty of height, but no distance. Any suggestions? Plus I'm 31 and a father of two. Falling now hurts! Still have the drive to gun it though!

Thanks

rukuswake · Outlaw Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 105 City: Lafayette

wow 31 and two kids and wakeboarding thats awsome. This is how i clear the wakes and it works real good. First cut out as far as u can when u get out pause and get momentem back twoard the wake and then move into a sitting down postion ( a strong edge) when u get to the wake keep the rope at ur hip and at the top of the wake just stand up and then bend ur knees when in the air and then u will make a smooth landing.
(maybe speed the boat up a little and clear the wakes that way so u can get a feel for landing in the softer water)
much love goodluck
~rukuswake~ *turbanman

dogboy268 · Newbie Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 3 City: Atlanta

I'm 31 too (But no kids)... I feel your pain. I have exactly the opposite problem...distance but no height.

You might not be going far enough outside before you hit the wake. Try picking up just a little more speed. But for god's sake don't lose any height. Catching a front edge off the landing is no fun.

Good luck!

CDawg · Outlaw Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 130 City: Bellevue

I had to chime in here, one old man to another! 34 years old, 2 kids, and no previous water sports experience. Very Happy

This is my first full season boarding and I've landed 2 w2w jumps over the last week and a half, but mostly I'm casing the wake in the same way with enough height but not distance/speed. Hope to put the technique together for my next session and get this w2w thing dialed. Landing on top of the wake kinda sucks! Laughing

editor 661 · Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 19 City: P-ROCK

31 ,4 kids, and still think am 19 when i get on the water. try holding that edge all the way through the wake as if u r going 2 ride though it ,not up it. let the board do the pop. once u get 2 the down side night and day on ur body

rschev · Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3

Hey , Just turned 38 here , also a father of two . Been wakeboarding since June and try to make it out at least twice a week now. I'm totally addicted . It seems to be a great way for me to stay in shape , I dont have to get to the gym as much . This sport feels like it really works your " core " . Yea it hurts , but somehow i always come up laughing my arss off . It hurts much less than motocross or my divorce . At this level it seems the only real danger is coming out of one binding and twisting . The concussions i can deal with LOL . I think that committing is the key . Every time Ive woosed out , it seems to hurt more than if i would have gone for it . Can do surface 180 , wake 180 , Grabs , and getting better at riding switch . Not consistent yet , only get real pop about 1 in 3 times . I hope to clear w2w clean by October . Ive Been reading tips here on this forum , and have been trying to work hard on proper form . I see all of the kids out at the lake and they alway give me a thumbs up watching the old man blasting off the wake and eating shizt. Keep it Up , dont let the young bastarrds have all the fun!

Doug · Posted: Aug 09, 2006 2:58 am Post subject:

ALL RIGHT YOU YOUNG PUNKS!!! I'm 47 and have been riding for a few years. Live by a lake so getting out is no problem. I'm at the point that if I can't get consistant with my w2w I'm gonna give it up. Every once in a while I'll hit it just right, but most of the time I'm falling short of getting past the wake. IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!

orleans210 · Newbie Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 11

my dads 52 with 2 kids and just had knee surgery but once he gets his doctors okay then he's gonna take up wakeboarding. he's pretyy crazy!

shepherd1000 · Newbie Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 33 City: St. Louis

I'm 51 with 2 kids, and I've been wakeboarding for just a couple of years. I absolutely love it. My 13 year old son is following in my footsteps.

derek_lukasik · Newbie Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 44 City: Fort Collins

36, 3 kids (all girls Shocked

), 3rd year boarding. What speed are you going and how far out is your line? I'd start at around 65' and 20-22mph. Stay committed, stand tall, you'll fly.

Old Man Stevens · Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 8

Thanks for all the input. I'm pumped to give it a shot tonight. It kills me because I cruise the lake with my wife and kids, but don't have a driver to take me out wakeboarding. Have to wait until brother in law gets home from work. Kills me. Plan on just killin it this time. Gun it off the wake and pull the rope to the hip! I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

This is my second season and I'm totally addicted. I hope to learn some w2w jumps and grabs. Grew up overseas surfing and now live in New England where the surfing isn't great! This is a close second!

See ya

Rhawn · Posted: Aug 09, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:

34, 2 kids, and land w2w about half the time. Get the wife to drive! Took several months, but my wife drives it perfect now.

CDawg · Outlaw Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 130 City: Bellevue

Hey Old Man Stevens, do you have Perfect Pass in your boat? I think just about any wife can be a great driver with PP, as long as she can drive a straight line and not run over you after a fall. Wink

Old Man Stevens · Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 8

Hey guys,

Just wanted to up date my attempts of w2w. I went tonight about five times and cased the wake. I could really feel a difference with the technique of pulling the rope to my hip. I then realized I was on a 65 foot rope. Killed the engine to take a leg out of the rope and the boat never fired up again. Two years old and it wouldn't start. Bummed. Plan on fixing it tomorrow and going with the shorter rope! I'll fill you in.

What's perfect pass?

Trying to get the wife to drive, but we have a 19 month year old that is balls to the wall and would jump out of the boat if we didn't have a hand on her. I think she may be the first one to make a w2w jump!

Thanks

Ethan31 · Posted: Aug 09, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject:

My dads 50 and he is killer on the water!

When your coming off the wake stand tall, keep the handle close to your hips and you will be fine.

hco · Posted: Aug 09, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject:

Yeah, if you consistently case the wake, shorten it one or two lengths. I tried and tried and tried for two seasons to clear the wake when i was 11-12, and then when I was 13, I finally put the rope at 45 ft. (it is a malibu response LXi, professional ski competition wake, so its tiny), and I cleared the wake for the first time. Now, after adding a wedge, two fatsacks, people, pylon, and having the confidence and riding ability, I can clear the wake at 65 feet, however I prefer the length of 55 ft.

derek_lukasik · Newbie Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 44 City: Fort Collins

Perfect pass is like cruise control for a boat. You set the speed and the boat maintains it. You get up to speed and throttle back and the boat takes over. Makes driving a lot easier. Gives the rider a nice consistent pull.

HHI Dave · Posted: Aug 10, 2006 10:38 am Post subject:

41 years old here. I've been wakeboarding for about 2 months now.

In that short time, I've already learned that technique is definitely the key to EVERYTHING on a wakeboard. A nice progressive edge toward the wake, rope in tight, and STAND TALL at the wake for that ever-elusive pop.

Old guys RULE!!!! Mr. Green

KristianB · Posted: Aug 10, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject:

Old Man Stevens, I'm 41, 2 small girls and a wife that will not drive! Sold the board and boat this spring! I miss boarding!!! Sad

As my wife would not drive, she sent me off to wakeboard camp 2 summers ago. Lots of fun, if you can handle being 25+ years older than the other "students"! Well, cracked a rib or two but finally cleared the wake. The strange thing is, no matter how much anyone says about hold the handle and standing tall as you hit the wake, you, and those watching, know as you start your cut how you will do. So, I think it has as much to do with technique as soon as you start cutting as well as attitude - you just have to know that this will work!

Remember the first times getting up? Concentration, do this, do that, hold like so... now it's just ho hum, pop up and then the wake ...

/K

nick@night · Posted: Aug 10, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject:

15 years old, no kids, haha

been riding for a few years, It is good to cut out alot, but the key is to obtain a good edge in, to do this you cannot just get in a sitting down position, although this is a start. When cutting in you should lean against the boat, this creates line tension, so you must bend your legs, and lean against the boat.

another key is to have good timing, even if you have a strong cut, if your timing is off you will case it every time. make sure that you straighten your legs when your nose is near the peak of the wake.

If you can make a video of your self wake boarding so we can actually see what is happening, this would help alot

Old Man Stevens · Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 8

Hello All,

Thanks for all the input. We got the boat back in the water after $600 worth of work and I'm fired up. I shortened the length of the rope and I think it will be the big difference. I landed on the wake twice with a 65 foot rope, so I'm hoping the shorter rope will do it for me. I'll try to video or take some pictures to show. I'm ready to go!

Will inform everyone tomorrow!

Thanks Cool

mess · Newbie Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 20

Hey Guys,

31 year old lady rider here. 2 kids, and my 9 yr old just started wakeboarding this year. I hate driving for my husband, just like all your wives seem to, but I'll do it if there's no one around. That perfect pass setup sounds like a dream. My husband is HARD to drive for because he's a great boarder and he's picky, and he's also around 220, and he pulls that boat off course if he cuts it hard. Getting a consistant pull is his dream.

Anyway, keep trying! wake 2 wake is one of the best feelings I've ever known. I've been doing this now for about 4 years, and I didn't get wake 2 wake till my second summer. Shortening the rope had a lot to do with it. So did really cutting hard and trusting that I could land it if I only had the speed to make the distance. Once you get it, it is SOOOO much easier to land on the down side of the other wake than in the middle. It will become second nature. You will absolutely LOVE it.

I am working on my first 180. It scares the crap out of me, but I am determined to land one before my kid does... Laughing

Jess

rhall1014 · Newbie Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2 City: High Point

46 3 kids wife who drives the boat , backs the trailer, and wakeboards. I have been wakeboarding about 2 seasons,went wtw first time about 6 weeks ago, basically sped up the boat from 20 to 21.5,rope length 60 and edged harder into the wake. Now I have gone wtw behind 3 different boats with different wakes. Its all about confidence for me. Good luck and yes it is much smoother landing on the downside of the wake, my knees and back thank me for it.

wildbill · Outlaw Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 200 City: austin

If you're getting good height, but casing the wake, you just need to cut out a tiny bit farther and then maintain your good progressive edge, and the extra speed should get you right over the wake. If you have a good progressive edge, there is no need to shorten the rope.
How fast do you ride? I would recommend going atleast 20, preferably 21-22.

Old Man Stevens · Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 8

I've been trying to get the W2W jumps and after a lot of input from everyone here, I did it. It was so sweet. The landings are so much better. It really was a mix between guts and technique. I was always jumping for height and never had enough speed for distance. Once I just gunned it and cut in hard I ended up clearing the wake. I started cutting in so hard that I started landing on the flats. I did shorten the rope, but may have to extend it again. Thanks for all the input and tips.

Have a great rest of the season. I did heal side... but is toe side a lot harder?

Thanks

Old Man Stevens

barelfly · Outlaw Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 153 City: alb

congrats on the jump! I hope to get there too in the next few weeks. - btw, 29 with two kids (5 and almost 2) - wife who just learned to board last month!

nick@night · Posted: Aug 21, 2006 7:34 am Post subject:

wakeopp · Newbie Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5 City: Concord

My husband is a 49 year old grandfather who dominates the wake! w2w from all sides and stances with great height and speed, plus 180 w2w's. He rocks and he's the envy of the youngsters we bring on board. I also wakeboard and drive (I'm 46). For all those ladies out there too afraid to drive or ride--just shut off your heads and do it. It's not that hard if you actually try and it's a whole lot of fun.

p.s. wear a helmet if you don't enjoy headaches

Hangtime · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 160 City: Concord

wakeopp, you do wonders for my ego. Honest, I didn't ask her to write that.

I have good news for you 30-somethings -- you have a solid 20 years of wakeboarding ahead of you. At age 49, I only feel constrained by fears of injury. The old body still works quite well and I hope to be throwing down tricks when I'm 60.

Regarding my hot 46 year old wakeboarding wife, you'd never guess her age if you watched her. She got me into wakeboarding. It's great having her want to be on the water as much as I do. It's all good -- I can't wait to get back out there.

MinnesotaBoarder · Outlaw Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 139

My dad is 49 and got up on a wakeboard his first time! cleared the wake probably his 3rd try! He is a skiier and really good at it

mikeridesbikess · Newbie Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 26

My only suggestion would be to cut in hard and STAY on that edge throughout the jump. Going out far isn't even that important, if you have a strong cut in you can get away with not going far out at all. Get down low, like 6 inches above the water with the rope held at your hip and follow through with the cut, you will clear it every time. You can clear the wake w/o popping much at all, but it does make it easier.

phantom268 · Posted: Aug 28, 2006 9:46 am Post subject:

Another 30 yr old rider been riding just over a year now. By the end of last season I at least landed some w2w jumps. This year I've really been focusing on learning the "right" technique to really get my Heelsides dialed in. I can now easily clear w2w by only cutting from the spray mark from the boat's hull. Took ALOT of practice but think I'm finally understanding it. Most everyone has offered good advice already, I think the key difference is translating that and actually DOING the advice that's the difficult part on the water.

My wife has had alot of trouble going w2w, and just recently something helped her ALOT and she's extremely close to nailing it. We extended the rope by 5ft. Yes that sounds odd to extend it to help her going w2w, but by adding that length she had ALOT more time to pace herself and get a much improved progressive edge going. The extra time to think about it slowed her down and drastically improved her 1 wake jumps. We shorteneed the rope back up and she's just inches from landing the w2w now. Previously she was getting almost zero pop, think she was rushing it. Anyway congrats on landing one, its an amazing feeling isn't it?? Toeside can be a bit more scary, but man does it feel good when you finally land a TS w2w!! Keep working on it!

Deyeme · Newbie Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 36 City: Troy

Fast351 · Outlaw Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 133 City: Dayton, MN

Damn, I feel relatively young at 34 Very Happy

Glad to see some older guys/gals rippin' it up. I can't get enough. I realize I'm no longer 16 and might never land some of the tricks that I'm seeing those pups land, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna try. I've been boarding about 3 years, I can land a wake to wake on heelside, can do surface 180s, ride switch, and just started landing toeside 180s. They're still ugly, but hey. It can be done. Next year I'm going to master W2W on all 4 approaches, master 180's in all 4 directions, and try some 360s with handle passes. Maybe inverts the year after Shocked

Here's a shot of me behind my Glastron this spring:

Not a huge wake, but still decent air.

Have fun people!

-Mike

Hangtime · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 160 City: Concord

MinnesotaBoarder, I'm glad to hear your dad is getting into boarding with you. My son is 27 -- like your dad, he just started too. It's great because the age gap totally goes away when your boarding. I'm not judged by my age, I'm judged by my last set. I'm sure there will come a time when they'll say, "not bad for an old man", but not just yet! And by the way -- my grandson is 4. I'm looking forward to him pushing us to get better. He's already saying he wants to wakeboard.