Where the winchers!

BoarderX · Posted: Oct 31, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: Where the winchers!

Big props to Flixmaster for adding a winch forum. I hope it takes off well.. So who out here is winching? I just finished building one and did some test runs this weekend that were pretty successfull. Still planning to add spool and chain guards and get the whole thing powder coated soon. Heres a couple of shots from the beach saturday.. yea the picture dates are wrong. My old man did all the engineering and stress analysis.. We went with quite a different design than most ive seen. Raised the pull point up pretty high and put 1200 foot of rope on the spool.

wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

That looks really good. How much did that cost you to make? I would make one if the price was right

BoarderX · Posted: Oct 31, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject:

That one costed about a grand.. deep water starts great with that torque converter. We ended up going with steel instead of alluminum on the frame to keep cost down.. but its HEAVY... Im sure our next revision will be alluminum and maybe redesign that cube a bit in some of the wasted space spots. We really like the spool above the motor instead of in front of the motor like most are so that wont change. Not that a second revision will be coming anytime soon.. but we got an engineer and a welder in the back pocket so who knows.

jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

exactly what besides sliders and pools would you use a winch for? (not being a smar -A** just wondering..)

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wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

i love the design, and execution. I dont know if i could spend a grand on something that i wouldnt use all the time. But i like that design a hell of a lot better than the black box, or winch.

jlaws, i think those are pretty much the only use for a winch. I would take mine to the beach and park my truck in like 8 inches of water and set up a little slider and hit it all day. They might use it for more than that.

BoarderX · Posted: Oct 31, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject:

Nick Taylor · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 6:24 am Post subject:

Here's some pics of us ochestrating the multiple uses of my winch.

Nick Taylor · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 6:29 am Post subject:

wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

nick, how much did yours cost you?

BoarderX · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 7:46 am Post subject:

Beaver · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 7:47 am Post subject:

Nick i love you.

I whipped up a winch in the ice and snow last winter up here in Canada, ill post pics next adventure.
I need more winching stoked friends.

wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

BoarderX, So your running a 6.5 hp mini bike motor? I was thinking about using my dads old ride on lawn mower. I think its a 12hp but im not sure.

How significant is a torque converter, and what kind of rope did you use that you were able to find 1200 feet of

BoarderX · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 10:23 am Post subject:

its a 6.5 hp Brigs and Strat motor... ordered here:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?in_merch=1&storeId=6970&productId=48156&R=48156

and the torque converter from the same place..
*edited - had the wrong link - twice*
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_35770_35770

the minibike throttle also..
grip:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_35765_35765
cable:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_35053_35053
springs:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_37116_37116

without the torque converter you can still ride but i hear it may be harder to do a deep water start.. if not impossible. You can certainly go bigger than 6.5hp.. but then you need a bigger chain and so on so forth. I kinda wish we went a little bigger myself, but it seems the 6.5 is good enough and seems to be the standard for these things popping up everywhere so far.

I got the 1200 of rope here. But its not listed on their page.. you may need to call them to find out if they still have any 1200 foot spools available.
http://www.bulletlines.com/

On a side note about 1200 foot of rope.. we thought that would be cool, but im starting to think its a little over kill. But hell a lot of things we did was overkill. A four football field hike while dragging 1200 ft of rope will leave you out of breath. I think the standard 600-900 foot is sufficient.

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject:

BoarderX, any thoughts on using a centrifugal clutch, like off a go-kart? just wondering, they come a lot cheaper that torque converters.

jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

wow so y'all actually go in the waves? hmm scince i can see the beach from my house i want one now Sad

.. anybody have some videos of beach winching?

wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

CptanPanic · Newbie Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 17 City: Lake Worth

That video is sick, anyone have a winch in south Florida? I love the idea of winching in the waves.

BoarderX · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject:

jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

nick i dont immagine that falling in the pine crick feels to good does it? we have something like that by my neighborhood... but it is far to polluted to go into

Josh R · Posted: Nov 01, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject:

A couple of pics from the winch comp we just put on over here:

chriscut · Outlaw Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 200

I LOVE WINCHING Smile

Seriously, it is so badass. I love my winch.

Ocean winching near santa cruz:

winchin the dirty d:

j-dome · Newbie Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 17 City: midlothian

i cant get enough of these photos. i want a winch so bad. you could probably use one for snowboarding too couldnt you

wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

Ya you could. If i built one i would use it year round for snowboarding, wakeboarding/wakeskating, and skateboarding. Still debating on whether i want to take the plunge and build one. There are not a whole lot of ponds locally that i could go and hit up, and the beach is an hour away, and not a whole lot of my friends are into wakeboarding so this would be something I wouldnt use all that often....probably not going to build one although i wish i could

BoarderX · Posted: Nov 02, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject:

chriscut,

saw this on one of your web pages.. is this the one you rode behind?

That is one hulluva interesting design! In one of the pictures you can see they are actually using a 13hp honda motor. thats a winch with muscle! You know anything about its design?

Ctipping · Posted: Nov 02, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject:

Beaver you know I'm stoked on winching, I just suck at being able to walk right now.

Jensen · Posted: Nov 02, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject:

damn, those pics are sick. i never knew the possibilities of winching.

chriscut · Outlaw Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 200

BoarderX, that winch is owned by Zak Stone, hes the only guy in the USA with that winch. its called the neverride hive, from Switzerland. they are about 10k but well worth it if you have the money. it runs super smooth and is simple to operate. its more of a competition winch or a winch three guys would all go in on. It pulls super smooth and never lacks power. you can edge as hard as you want but the hydraulic clutch doesn't weaken the torque of the thing. Its also built with the best materials, i think the frame is titanium even? Its such a nice winch. we hit up mission bay on some sliders and in that pic we hit up some waves in San Diego, good times. Very Happy

chriscut · Outlaw Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 200

here are the rest of the pics from the hive sesh we had in sd!
http://www.norcalwake.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=786

a sesh in the delta with the first integrity winch:
http://www.norcalwake.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=656

a pond winch set at a local lake with a rewind winch:
http://www.norcalwake.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482

another set w/the rewind winch, in a dirty run off ditch:
http://wakeupfilms.com/galleries/CroakDitch1-22-06.html

winching is so much fun. Now that I have a winch i dont even think i'm going to buy a jetski like I had planned. i have too much fun with my winch. its worth every penny.

BoarderX · Posted: Nov 03, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:

That neverride winch makes me wish i beefed mine up a lot more.. and all those winching sessions are SIK. Got so much to look forward to... Setting up a slider on a man made beach in front of the university down here this weekend to put a show on for the kiddos I think Wink

Should be a great spot for winching.. check it out.

devon · Posted: Nov 03, 2006 9:09 am Post subject:

you said you have 1200 feet of rope so can you go out 1200 feet in the lake or something and be pulled in that much
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wakeboardin2k4 · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 355 City: Wilmington

chriscut, how much did your winch cost you with the 13 hp engine?

chriscut · Outlaw Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 200

wakeboardin2k4, thats not my winch, it belongs to Zak. Hive's run about 10k but if you want one you'd have to wait till next spring because they are sold out until then i hear.

chriscut · Outlaw Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 200

BoarderX, that is a sick spot! the points of sand that go out will work great. get some pics/video and post em!

BoarderX · Posted: Nov 03, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: