Malibu 2007 wedge

riverside · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: Malibu 2007 wedge

does this mean better holeshot?
what keeps it down?

QNev · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject:

It kind of acts as artificial ballast by sucking down part of the boat depending on its position. I believe it is kept in place by hydraulics.

newbiestratos · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 20

look closely.... I believe that it is held in either the up or down position with a pin. I can't find any more information about it but that's what it looks like to me. Confused

DRAGON88 · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

New for the 2007 models is a "free floating" wedge, this apparently allows the wedge to always be in the optimal positon. It doesn't lock down, it only locks in the up position. It is rumored that this is an excelent setup for wakesurfing.

Holeshot will be the same, it just will self adjust to always be at maximum downforce. Or so they say.

JV · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject:

it kind of scares me how malibu is changing the design of their wedge seemingly every single year. seems like they're trying to work out the kinks but keep finding new ones

oshensurfer · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject:

JV,
That's like saying car companies shouldn't improve on design.

JV · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:

not really. if it's a good design, car companies keep it intact for atleast a few years until they can finally figure out a way to improve it. malibu has made changes nearly every year. if it's that easy to find yet another improvement that quickly, how solid is the pre-existing design?

trx-1noob · Newbie Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 13 City: Cardston

JV, i hear ya and agree with ya on one hand. but on the other hand with how quickly the sport is evolving and changing and all the manufacturers are outdoing each other, it's prob a good thing they keep changing every year. just think of this as a hydrolic wedge in which you have to manually find the sweet spot, this just does it for ya. kind of a good idea.

JV · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject:

spinnintowin, as opposed to your insightful and well thought-out contribution? you're a big man. and, of course, it makes no difference that, up until a month ago, i owned a vlx (and hopefully will own one again soon) and loved the versatility of the wedge--regardless of a couple problems we encountered with it. but yeah, my opinion means nothing. do me a favor and take your own advice.

sorry, had to bitch slap an idiot right quick.

anyway, is the power wedge still going to be offered? a big selling point last year was the adjustability of the wake due to the power wedge, but now your only option is all the way up or putting it where it provides maximum downforce. or is this just meant to replace the manual wedge?

JV · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:

um no, i was making the payments with every dime i could earn and made the decision indepently of my parents to sell when i realized having the boat wasn't financially sound for the amount of hours i could spare away from class to use it. and since when does going to texas a&m paying resident tuition and having a dad who's retired air force and a mom who's a retired substitute teacher make you spoiled? anything else stupid you feel you need to say? and if the next words out of your mouth aren't an apology, don't bother hurting yourself trying to come up with a clever response. anything more intelligent than "F you" is beyond you, i'm afraid

JV · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

oh, i bet you thought that was clever. how cute. i'm out

oshensurfer · Posted: Sep 04, 2006 8:36 am Post subject:

JV · Posted: Sep 04, 2006 8:43 am Post subject:

oshensurfer, sounds reasonable enough. so i take it this new wedge is to replace the manual wedge, but the power wedge is still meant to be the #1 option?

riverside · Posted: Sep 04, 2006 10:02 am Post subject:

what,s keeping it down?....it doesn,t lock in the down position.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Sep 04, 2006 10:58 am Post subject:

Force of the water keeps it down. Gravity will pull it to the down position and the water moving over the wedge will keep it in the down position.

Natman · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 873 City: Eddy TOWN

power wedge is still available

Schmo · Posted: Sep 05, 2006 5:09 am Post subject:

Lesson 3 - choose better friends. Very Happy

Gwakesetter · Criminal Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 87 City: Knoxville

I had a 07VLX last month and I had the power wedge on it. They changed the gauges and made it a lot easier to shape the wake.

J-Ro · Posted: Sep 05, 2006 6:16 am Post subject:

There have only been 2 significant changes to the wedge in the past 10 years. If you want to count the foil shape change in 99-00 then fine. But the power wedge was the first big change and this is the second. Not a whole lot if you ask me.

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: Sep 05, 2006 6:49 am Post subject:

There will never be a better boat than malibu.

oshensurfer · Posted: Sep 05, 2006 8:03 am Post subject:

I think I would still stick with the power wedge based on my experience with it.

andy mogg · Posted: Sep 07, 2006 9:35 am Post subject:

Ben, isn´t it kind of like an anchor that digs itself into the bottom of the lake?
That´s what I´m guessing. When the water runs over it, it tries to "dig" or "fly" to the bottom of the lake rather than getting pushed up and back. Just my guess though.

riverside · Posted: Sep 07, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:

hi andy,
well i was hoping that the wedge was pushed back by the propwash the first few seconds....and comes down when the speed increases.
we do not use the wedge anymore.It takes quite a long time to reach boarding speeds.
all ballast full 4 people and 2 extra (side 350lbs)fat sacks is a nice set up.One on thr rear bench and one on the floor.
the wake isn,t as steep as with the wedge down..but it is massive.
the guys at our club train hard and do fall alot,...pulling up everytime with the wedge down consumes time.

it is a good system but somehow they should make it work 2 ways...like a trim plate out of the hole and like the wedge on speed.

andy mogg · Posted: Sep 07, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject:

Ben, We train hard too, and fall alot more!!!! Laughing

Just kidding! I don´t use the wedge usually either if we have full ballast and at least 4 people in the boat. Less than that and I will take time to put it down. I know what your saying with the hole shot. But......I took advantage of the prop deal at the malibu crew. We got the new 1235. It does a pretty good job of getting us out of the hole. Conny Schrader went for a ride behind our boat after we had put it on. 12 or 13 people in the boat and ballast full but no wedge. We had to come out of the hole with gas and then switched to LPG. (maybe we didn´t have to, but we did) I think if we had the old prop on then forget it!!! I remember earlier this year when we were trying the boat out, that I was riding with ballast, wedge and maybe 8 people. The driver was complaining the whole time. We also started with gas and then switched to LPG. Don´t know if that is a good comparison or not since when Conny was behind the boat, there were 3 people in the front and with me nobody. In any case, during "normal" conditions, your hole shot is quicker and from what I can tell, not a big change in RPM´s. Talked to ACME before I ordered and they said that the only disadvantage is end-speed and fuel economy should be better.

How about ordering a new prop next year and the HammerHead!!! Twisted Evil

How many hours on the boat? We are at about 320! Shocked

And this was a slow year for us! Hope your season is going OK!

Later,

Andy