my w2w pop? or no pop?

heroldmike · Criminal Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 68 City: toronto

hey guys this is a video of me on my smaller boat but i dont think im getting as high as i could, this isnt my best jump but its all i have and sorry i couldnt edit out the bad one, the good jump is the second one.

i think im loading the rope well but i think i might be poping up to early?? suggestions? thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TikUDy2gvGY

johnboy1892 · Newbie Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 36 City: winston-salem

you need more surface area between the wake and the board you are powering through the wake.

heroldmike · Criminal Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 68 City: toronto

wat do u mean by that? im going to fast or cutting to hard?

howabouttheiris · Addict Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 677 City: Austin, TX

A quick look says that you are coming off edge.

Look at the spray you are throwing forward at 17s-18s.
Look at the spray you are not throwing forward at 19s(when you come from behind the tower.)

Good news... you get on edge very well and are producing great power.
Bad news... you throw it all away in the last second.

You need to do something to trick yourself into staying on edge thru the wake. Try any/all of these....

1. keep your legs straighter and lean back more (once you weight is way back it is more difficult to come off edge)

2. cut harder (board angle away from boat more) at the last second

3. take a shorter run at the wake (feel like you do not get to your hardest edge in time)

4. pull your toes up at the last second (to increase board angle)

5. do not go so aggressively at the start

I personally used #3. Cut out 2-3 feet. Try to do a big jump. You will notice that you fly very high... but maybe not as far as you like. Once you get the feeling of the benefit of the line tension at takeoff, there are countless ways to generate it. BUT they all lead to being more progressive at the wake.

my 2 cents...

johnboy1892 · Newbie Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 36 City: winston-salem

wildbill · Outlaw Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 200 City: austin

howabouttheiris · Addict Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 677 City: Austin, TX

No it is not the wake.

The beauty of progressive edge and the load and release is that it requires no wake to do. Look online for some "air" tricks, like the air backroll. When you perfect this technique you can throw backrolls without a wake at all.

Remember that you are attached to the boat. It is pulling you up and forward at 22MPH. If you are off edge, you get none (or very little) of this.

Of course there would not be a 'double up' if wake did not matter... so saying that it does not help at all is short sighted and foolish. But he can do a lot better, with proper technique, than what is on the video. It is not the wake at this point that is stopping him from progressing.

heroldmike · Criminal Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 68 City: toronto

thanks alot for ur help guys im gonna try it out tommorw! Very Happy

macheekin · Newbie Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 7

i dunno dude, it looks like youre getting on the gas too soon. work with a more progressive edge. try not to cut out and then turn and go. it looked kinda like youre flatening out right before the wake and jumping over it. it may be a small wake but use all of it. and to get a lil better progressive edge you may want to cut out farther. oh yeah and find a calm side of the lake!!!

Ethan31 · Posted: Aug 16, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject:

Dont edge so hard right away. Its called a PROGRESSIVE Edge, Witch means Build the egde so your at max tension as you hit the wake. this will also prevent the slack your getting in your line.

So, Cut out, stop (coast) Then once the boat begins to pull you back in, set your edge, then make it harder, and harder as you go in, so you are at max line tension riding up the wake. Then stand tall....and BANG there will be your pop.

Oh, and get a little longer line, the wake looks bigger (has more lip) like 5ft behind you.